TRUNKSvsCELL Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 In my opinion neither side is able to prove they are correct. The bible isn't enough proof to completely support itself because of the flaws sections that are not to be taken seriously cuz we all know it's mostly code to confuse people and control them, but evolution also hasn't enough proof. I also can't every agree with atheists. I believe there is at least a higher power of some kind and I let other believe in what ever higher power they want but to think that everything is ONLY natural and with out super natural is just as close-minded as religious fundamental religious people. This is why i'm anti-religious. I believe atheism is the equivalent to religious and beliefs but in the opposite direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmingllama Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 In my opinion neither side is able to prove they are correct. The bible isn't enough proof to completely support itself because of the flaws sections that are not to be taken seriously cuz we all know it's mostly code to confuse people and control them, but evolution also hasn't enough proof. I also can't every agree with atheists. I believe there is at least a higher power of some kind and I let other believe in what ever higher power they want but to think that everything is ONLY natural and with out super natural is just as close-minded as religious fundamental religious people. This is why i'm anti-religious. I believe atheism is the equivalent to religious and beliefs but in the opposite direction.Atheism is an official religion now with places of worship and weekly gatherings. Ah well...And this is the reason why I am agnostic. Any view is a possibility until proven or disproven. I like the concept of faith, but not organized religion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUNKSvsCELL Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Same in a sense. I believe in God but I'm always open to new ideas. N i hate organized religion too. That's why i'm anti-religious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanis Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 There is no 'creation theory', at least not SCIENTIFIC theory.The fact of the matter is creationism is no more scientific than saying the Earth is flat.Well, technically it is possible, although not plausible, that Creationism is true. In any case, its best to look at it as a story that explains the creation of the world with their god being the catalyst. There is no real way to disprove it absolutely. A lack of evidence isn't evidence.It's like saying 'this person here is a pedophile, they should be arrested', without any proof, just because "There is no real way to disprove it absolutely".That's not how science works. Atheism is an official religion now with places of worship and weekly gatherings. Ah well...And this is the reason why I am agnostic. Any view is a possibility until proven or disproven. I like the concept of faith, but not organized religion. Atheism is no more a 'religion' than 'bald' is a hair color or 'off' is a TV channel.Religious texts are based on poor reasoning.It's called 'circular reasoning'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmingllama Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 There is no 'creation theory', at least not SCIENTIFIC theory.The fact of the matter is creationism is no more scientific than saying the Earth is flat.Well, technically it is possible, although not plausible, that Creationism is true. In any case, its best to look at it as a story that explains the creation of the world with their god being the catalyst. There is no real way to disprove it absolutely. A lack of evidence isn't evidence.It's like saying 'this person here is a pedophile, they should be arrested', without any proof, just because "There is no real way to disprove it absolutely".That's not how science works. Atheism is an official religion now with places of worship and weekly gatherings. Ah well...And this is the reason why I am agnostic. Any view is a possibility until proven or disproven. I like the concept of faith, but not organized religion. Atheism is no more a 'religion' than 'bald' is a hair color or 'off' is a TV channel.Religious texts are based on poor reasoning.It's called 'circular reasoning'.Id prefer if you didn't take my words incorrectly. For your first complaint, I never said that creationism was true. I merely stated that it could be true since it hasn't been disproven. This is how science works.Also, atheism is a religion. It holds views on the divine and the afterlife. It also contests other religions and holds their views as wrong and that atheism is the only right way of thinking. Finally, you can declare you religious affiliation as atheism. So yes it is a religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanis Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014  There is no 'creation theory', at least not SCIENTIFIC theory.The fact of the matter is creationism is no more scientific than saying the Earth is flat.Well, technically it is possible, although not plausible, that Creationism is true. In any case, its best to look at it as a story that explains the creation of the world with their god being the catalyst. There is no real way to disprove it absolutely. A lack of evidence isn't evidence.It's like saying 'this person here is a pedophile, they should be arrested', without any proof, just because "There is no real way to disprove it absolutely".That's not how science works. Atheism is an official religion now with places of worship and weekly gatherings. Ah well...And this is the reason why I am agnostic. Any view is a possibility until proven or disproven. I like the concept of faith, but not organized religion. Atheism is no more a 'religion' than 'bald' is a hair color or 'off' is a TV channel.Religious texts are based on poor reasoning.It's called 'circular reasoning'.Id prefer if you didn't take my words incorrectly. For your first complaint, I never said that creationism was true. I merely stated that it could be true since it hasn't been disproven. This is how science works.Also, atheism is a religion. It holds views on the divine and the afterlife. It also contests other religions and holds their views as wrong and that atheism is the only right way of thinking. Finally, you can declare you religious affiliation as atheism. So yes it is a religion. By that reasoning, then, it's possible all life was created by a multi-dimensional being who pooped us out of their anus during a partially bad poop.-Again, science doesn't work that way.-You don't start with a conclusion and then try and make 'facts' to prove it, that's what creationists do.Again: Off is a TV channel, Bald is a hair color, not having sex is a form of sex, etc.You can also write in 'other' and declare your race to be TimeLord/Orc and your religion Jedi/Sith.Does that mean there are TimeLords/Orcs and Jedi/Sith? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmingllama Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Actually, you can't prove that it didn't happen, now can you? Science is about hypothesis. The conclusion is the hypothesis, and the experimentation is to find proof or disproof. So you can start with the conclusion. Also, Jedi is a valid cult, so it is a valid choice. I don't know about sith. Anyways, a cult needs 100 followers to exist, and millions of people call themselves atheist. So your argument is flawed.Either way, you are unwilling to see both sides of this argument, so I won't bother to reply anymore. Having a closed mind is the worst thing to do concerning religion or faith. Edited February 5, 2014 by lemmingllama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanis Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 And you don't get that words have meanings. I'd rather not be lumped into a group that thinks the Earth, the universe, was created by a 'sky daddy' and that it's okay to commit murder as long as said sky daddy makes it so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYONBO Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Adding on to the fear-latching, why would people worship a god they fear? I can't understsnd that mentality. If your god is so wonderful and kind and looks out for you, why fear him/it? I'm not sure how to explain it to you but I recommend visiting http://www.truthforum.com.jm/presentations.html and listen to the science and creation presentation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaticX Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Religion is a joke, I've got a question for the Parents out there: This "God" considers us his Children, Right? And he let's horrible and traumatic things happen to us so that we can Mature and grow spiritually, right? Now the question is: Would you do that to your own children? Or let them go through that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
† LimitLess Posted May 4, 2014 Report Share Posted May 4, 2014 I don't know what to think about religion. We have so many people believing in different things. It's hard to say, but I have peace knowing that when I wake up the next day, I can still breathe, I still have the sun, I still have food eat and water to drink. I refuse to believe that I came from an ape. It gives me comfort to know the way I'm made, the way the universe works, the way everything is in such perfect order. Which is why believe in God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavenlyClassic Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 (edited) religion is stupidjust a bunch of people scared of nothing existing after death. but whatever helps them cope so long as it doesnt affect otherslike them people going door to door >.> i also find most religious people are quite hypocritical in terms of their beliefs to their actions Edited May 17, 2014 by HeavenlyClassic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoultakerSpirit Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Here's one that noone hardly talks about due to the government being assholes. Wicca and Pagan. I have did some research and found out that Indians (Native Americans) were not the first people here. It was the Pagans. In fact some of our presidents were Pagans, but the government did not want people to know. So now when you mention Wicca or Pagan like if you're suppose to wear a certain piece of clothing say a headband that you can not take off even to get a picture taken. They would force you to remove it and say "We will need a letterhead explaining your religion and why you must wear this" which I think is bullshit. We get discriminated against yet they want to force their religion down our throats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUNKSvsCELL Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) I went to the Creation Museum this week. I met Ken Ham. Wow, he is a smug prudent. I believe in creation but i do NOT like that man at all. I think I was the only one in the room who didn't clap when he spoke against marriage equality at his speech. It was awkward and disheartening. Edited May 31, 2014 by TRUNKSvsCELL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kouhai Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 I went to the Creation Museum this week. I met Ken Ham. Wow, he is a smug prudent. I believe in creation but i do NOT like that man at all. I think I was the only one in the room who didn't clap when he spoke against marriage equality at his speech. It was awkward and disheartening. Does Creation = Creationism? Just a bit curious. (Cool shirt, though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TRUNKSvsCELL Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) I went to the Creation Museum this week. I met Ken Ham. Wow, he is a smug prudent. I believe in creation but i do NOT like that man at all. I think I was the only one in the room who didn't clap when he spoke against marriage equality at his speech. It was awkward and disheartening. Does Creation = Creationism? Just a bit curious. (Cool shirt, though) yeah it's a museum about the history of creation. Which for the most part I agree with but I don't close-minded beliefs. I'm anti-religious but I believe in God and creation. (n thnx) Edited June 2, 2014 by TRUNKSvsCELL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwapogi Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 I'm an atheist, but I won't be an asshole to those who believe in god and deities and stuff. It's just that it irritates me when someone religious talks to me and keeps on blabbing about god and jesus and the blessings..my mother, of all people. And also, there are some "religious" people that keeps on praying, and praying, and praying but is kind of an asshole when it comes to other things..like my aunt, who is a catechist and has some role in our local parish, but is a complete asshole when she's here in our house. There are also some people that just relies on their god and keeps on praying, but the people themselves does nothing to achieve what they are praying for. So yeah, in my point of view, Religion takes away people's self-trust and encourages the people to worship a deity who has gone to great lengths to hide it's existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanis Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 I went to the Creation Museum this week. I met Ken Ham. Wow, he is a smug prudent. I believe in creation but i do NOT like that man at all. I think I was the only one in the room who didn't clap when he spoke against marriage equality at his speech. It was awkward and disheartening. Does Creation = Creationism? Just a bit curious. (Cool shirt, though) yeah it's a museum about the history of creation. Which for the most part I agree with but I don't close-minded beliefs. I'm anti-religious but I believe in God and creation. (n thnx) So...you're just anti-science, and facts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwapogi Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 I think he is... It's already 2014, I can't stand those people who still believes in supernatural stuffs that has no Scientific explanations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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