Badguys Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 https://archive.is/sx1dc https://archive.is/fP7OH We need to make some noise and get people aware of this as it could be bad for everyone outside the US and Canada. Knowing how this forum is hosted outside the US, our community could fall victim to this at any time. We already have a few pre-requisites that could help getting this defeated once again -The US president (Donald Trump as of the creation of the post) hates the TPP, so this could get international fanatics of the president to turn against it. -There's currently a holocaust-like scenario in the Hollywood where many prolific people are being outed as sexual pests, making the fact that they're trying to get people canned from cyberspace for doing as little as looking up movie clips not sit well with many (TL;DR it should be a cakewalk to get the pedowood crowd on-board). Quoting a anonymous 8chan user (ID 866ffd on 11/11/17) the anon summarized the bill in full as: Quote They claim no dates are confirmed and they need to re-draft the text- but you know how sneaky these bastards are. Everything from before still applies. Hiding draconic punishment by banning whole families from using the internet under pretext of copyright law in the deal. Making ISPs capable of more monitoring than the NSA is in the deal. Ignoring environmental and worker laws as they see fit is in the deal. A nation's own laws mean nothing, and TPP overriding them is still in the deal. Them making every attempt to keep it out of the public eye as much as possible is still in the deal. Them making the document itself as hard to get a complete copy of is still in the deal. Them keeping the document secret for YEARS after it has passed is still in the deal. Because the TPP has never been about trade, and all of the above is the true goal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badguys Posted November 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 Bumping for increased visibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaurusX Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 MAGA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badguys Posted November 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 And you might want to check out http://battleforthenet.com as they're a good action site for where net neutrality stand in the US. It turns out that the internet is being plotted to be restricted at the ISP level in the 'states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyBasket Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Isn't Canada still a part of the continued TPP-11? I know trudeau walked out at one point but I'm not sure exactly if Canada walked out of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badguys Posted November 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, EmptyBasket said: Isn't Canada still a part of the continued TPP-11? I know trudeau walked out at one point but I'm not sure exactly if Canada walked out of the deal. Last I heard, Canada walked out of it, and it seems the bill is leaving all of North America out of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyBasket Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 If true that's good for them. More Copyright industry trojan horsing thwarted. I really hope other countries drop out. That being said, Bell (canada's ISP) wants to censorship of the web to be a part of the NAFTA re-negotiations. The Industrial Protectionism never ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badguys Posted November 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 9 hours ago, EmptyBasket said: If true that's good for them. More Copyright industry trojan horsing thwarted. I really hope other countries drop out. That being said, Bell (canada's ISP) wants to censorship of the web to be a part of the NAFTA re-negotiations. The Industrial Protectionism never ends. The more content creators try to fight piracy, the deeper it gets. It can never be thwarted. The war is of fruition, and it seems pirates/indies are winning knowing how Hollywood is currently having a holocaust (heh, Hollycaust) of it's own called #MeToo, power-grabs like this having their true intentions shown for what they are, power-grabs, and ultimately pirates and indie producers being some resilient bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaxt Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) https://www.battleforthenet.com/ well i am in a country that still has no issues with internet but tbh as I see it, in few years rip net neutrality and unlimited data and not only in trumpistan. they ll give unlimited fb/yt/netflix traffic and average Joe will be super happy Edited November 23, 2017 by sfaxt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaxt Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) and condolences. its a black day in the history of computing. but hey its a place where cops can kill people in the streets. i didn't expect anything better. i can only hope it stays in america. though surely we' ll see how things play in courts. or google and amazon might just buy that FCC startup company^^ https://www.neowin.net/news/fcc-close-to-repealing-net-neutrality-but-security-halts-final-vote. if you can stop supporting those isps who'll act like douchebags. and to cheer things up Edited December 14, 2017 by sfaxt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badguys Posted December 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Actually, hearing about the removal of the "Net Neutrality" bill will just mean that ISPs will not require a Title II (broadcast) license to even operate and the Government may not be able to willingly censor people for as little as a wasteful social media post come 8 years time (mainly since the Net Neutrality rules were snuck in the Military budget (NDAA) for 2017, where it says that the organization made to "fact check" (read: determine if a organization is leftist, so that they can be shut down) in the original document). The Open Internet rules were shot down one time, but then were repackaged with nasty red tape as "Net Neutrality" which (to summarize the original bill that was shot down) would've made a company outside of the government office that calls back to the federal government, and after approvals of think-tanks and NGOs would've banned anyone for as much as a full website or as little as a shitpost, even going so far as to revoke the Title II license if the ISP refused to remove said "Fake News". Basically, "Net Neutrality" was an extra hurdle for ISPs, made a government office that could shut down anyone big or small at the drop of a hat, and looked into social engineering tactics against the populous at large to use on them at a later date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaxt Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) comcast ftw lol after http://corporate.comcast.com/openinternet/open-net-neutrality before http://reverepress.com/news/comcast-deleted-promise-keep-internet-open/ ----------------------------------- but my guess is theres gonna be a good backlash at the very least https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/ag-schneiderman-i-will-sue-stop-illegal-rollback-net-neutrality and the same will happen in about a dozen states ---------------------------------- and thore are the cool kids that made it possible. just send them some peanuts and cheese and they ll take it back. whats that? $4-5 mil? ^^ https://www.theverge.com/2017/3/29/15100620/congress-fcc-isp-web-browsing-privacy-fire-sale Edited December 15, 2017 by sfaxt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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