Monad-Gnostis Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Which do you think would win?remember that both posses a genious intellect and have some pretty particular powers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Lelouche isn't really smart at all. He's someone who was made to look smart but anyone who knows what real intelligence is would see he wasn't really. He had to plan out everything in advance and if something happened in the midst of things that was a game changer he was completely shit out of luck because he couldn't come up with anything on the spot when it counted. He then used the same technique over and over again because he lacked the ability to come up with new ideas.As far as genius goes, Light makes Lelouche appear to be retarded.As far as a battle goes, Light doesn't have the eyes to see his name, so unless Lelouche told him his name Light couldn't do anything, especially if Lelouche was disguised as Zero. While on the other hand Lelouche could use his Geass to command Light to write his own name down, thus killing Light. In a battle Lelouche has the upper hand, in brains Light has the upper hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroPenguins Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 I say screw them both, L is more smarter. But if it was those two, Lelouch would win, I can't say he's dumb but I can say that he is not as smart as L. Also Koby doesn't Light plan ahead as well? So you can't really say Lelouch is more dumb because he plans ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmingllama Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Well, if it was just a fight or something, then Light would be screwed. But if it was just a thing where they had to find each other, like an assassin game orr something, then Lelouch wouldnt be able to do anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 I say screw them both, L is more smarter. But if it was those two, Lelouch would win, I can't say he's dumb but I can say that he is not as smart as L. Also Koby doesn't Light plan ahead as well? So you can't really say Lelouch is more dumb because he plans ahead.You misunderstood what I said.I never said Lelouche was dumb because he planned ahead. I said he wasn't as intelligent as people falsely believe because he was completely unable to adapt the plans he made in advance when the situation changed. Light on the other hand could easily rethink his strategy near instantly and counter L's plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trend Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Well all Light would have to do is write down Lelouche's name in the death note. Wah-bam, instant win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroPenguins Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 You completely misunderstood every thing I said.I never said Lelouche was dumb because he planned ahead. I said he wasn't as intelligent as people falsely believe because he was completely unable to adapt the plans he made in advance when the situation changed. Light on the other hand could easily rethink his strategy near instantly and counter L's plans.LOL! talk about my crappy grammar, I always never think and type out crap, what I meant is more dumber. Anyways I don't really recall Light ever had to rethink, so I can't really say, I haven't watched the anime since last year. But in my opinion Lelouch is a lot better, he in the end saved the world for others, where Light ends up selfishly making it for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmingllama Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Well all Light would have to do is write down Lelouche's name in the death note. Wah-bam, instant winWell Lelouche just has to see Light and say "Die" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trend Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Well Lelouche just has to see Light and say "Die" touché sire, touché Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomxmassacre Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Well lets see. I agree with coby about the intelligence issue. It really depends maybe Light thinks lelouches real name is Lelouch Lamperouge (idk how to spell it lol) since he doesn't have shinigami eyes and writes that in the death note not knowing its fake. Them bam "I command you to... Die!" - Game over Light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuoAmero Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Lelouch I will admit doesn't have the same cold-heartedness as Light. There are times in the Death Note anime where Light is taken by surprise, but is able to keep his calm and think his way out of it. e.g., when L sits down next to Light in To-Oh University and says "Oh, and by the way, I'm L". We hear Light's thoughts, he's freaking out, but outwardly, he's perfectly calm and is able to talk back to L as if he's not worried at all.Lelouch though does have a bit of an anger management issue. There are times where he gets foiled and he immediately starts raging. He loses his focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
†RazorDan Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 rikuo makes a great point. Light is a lot better at keeping calm and has much more self control. They are different, I don't think you can truly compare them (which is a bit ironic as I always did lol). Lelouch is a strategist, a military commander and, in my opinion, a damn good leader of men. His genius comes from his anticipation, charisma and his high confidence in his own ability. Light on the other hand, is also a strategist but he is a lot more calculating and is more like an assassin than a commander, a really ruthless guy, who can manipulate people as well as Lelouch's geass almost. They are both supremely self confident and both have excellent anticipation but they have many differences. It's like comparing a samurai to a ninja, a rugby player to an nfl player. The basic skills are similar but after that they are quite different. In fact, my opinion has changed now that I believe they are both almost equally intelligent. The only reason Lelouch just edges it, is because of his ability to achieve his goals, despite having to rely on others. He couldn't win without the black knights, and so worked them into his plan and was successful. In contrast, in the second half of the anime, Light showed that he didn't truly understand the people he had to use when Near figured him out after the 'second Kira' made a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumRoll Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Lelouche has a gun, which is faster than finding someones name and writing it in the death note. As far as I can see, geass doesn't even need to come into the discussion:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3mon Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Ofcourse its light yagami....no doubt about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathiasBelmont Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Light is too clever to lose to Lelouche! XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neosephiroth1 Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 light would win at any cost any rate he is a deathgod now , remember what ryku told him? a fate between heaven and hell awaits those who use the death note Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegeta143 Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Lelouchebecause light has a mentle breakdown at the end of series its sad considering how calm he is rest of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monad-Gnostis Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Hmmm.. You know what? none of you's actually thought of the idea that both might try to work together, imagine it... Lelouche: holy crap! the new viceroy is here. Light: I'll take care of it. ^.^ LOL! They would make one hell of a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelkova Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Lelouch sorry guys but Lelouch out of the two was the only one who accomplished his goal and had everything go as planned. Light was more spoiled and didn't forsee everything. Lelouch predicted everything ahead of time (excluding his captured but he managed to escape) and had a counter act to pretty much everything. Light did this to some point but he got to full of himself and didn't expect all outcomes. Lelouch did expect them all and made it to all things would wind up in his favor. He wanted the ending to occur remember that. He wanted the world to think he was dead as he was taking the worlds hatred with him, and he succeeded (whether he is actually dead is not entirely confirmed but the series is over). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Lelouch sorry guys but Lelouch out of the two was the only one who accomplished his goal and had everything go as planned. Light was more spoiled and didn't forsee everything. Lelouch predicted everything ahead of time (excluding his captured but he managed to escape) and had a counter act to pretty much everything. Light did this to some point but he got to full of himself and didn't expect all outcomes. Lelouch did expect them all and made it to all things would wind up in his favor. He wanted the ending to occur remember that. He wanted the world to think he was dead as he was taking the worlds hatred with him, and he succeeded (whether he is actually dead is not entirely confirmed but the series is over).Yes, he accomplished his goal. However no he didn't have it all planned out. He didn't come to that plan until like the last 10 episodes of R2 or so. Lelouche couldn't really formulate plans too well. He used the same strategy over and over again, and when shit hit the fan... he went 'oh fuck' and couldn't adapt his plan on the fly. That's the problem. When it came down to it Lelouche was an idiot who couldn't plan counter attacks except during the single strategy he used to best every one of his main enemies (the video tape and come up behind sneak).Light may have been nothing more than a murderer trying to become god, but his fall was not his own. The only reason he failed was to do with a mistake that Mikami made that Light had no idea had been done. There is no way he could have seen that coming.Also you are wrong about your final thought in parenthesis. The creators confirmed Lelouche lives in an interview. They originally wouldn't comment on it as they left it open for viewers to discuss, but they changed their mind and finally came out with the conclusion and they even state he may make an appearance in the new manga (not the new anime). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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