DrumRoll Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 just wondering why people bother to keep the japanese audio, surely no one uses it?I just got to thinking this because I was wondering how much space all those superfluous tracks were taking up in my HD.Anyway do people leave them in because it affects quality or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Dual-Audio caters to both Sub and Dub watchers all in one file. You'd be surprised to learn there is more Sub watchers than Dub watchers when it comes to Anime fans. Less than 10% of Anime fans actually watch the Dub. Kametsu just happens to be blessed with a huge community of Dub fans who have came together for a common interest.As for added filesize? If AAC or AC3 is the audio type then usually it's only around 30 MB of additional space. Not much if you ask me. I would prefer Dual-Audio any day as it gives me the option of which to watch. I watch both Dub and Sub depending on the series. So if the dub sucks I can easily hit the 'a' button to switch audio tracks and don't have to bother getting another file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero D. Ace Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 At first, I only used to watch Dubs but it wasn't until i switched to Subs that I realized how huge the anime world really was. There are tonnes of series which haven't even been licensed yet, let alone dubbed and there are also series which I immensely liked but which haven't had enough of a fan following to get licensed.Along with that, there's also the fact that some Dubs lack the emotion that exists in Subs. There are anime which I started watching Dubbed but then the voices became rather annoying and I switched to Subs. For example, Buso Renkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOCRLK Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 My son is a sub watcher..Me I can't stand it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vael Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 I'm with koby, I mainly use it as a backup, if the dub is horrible, I'll just watch the sub on the same file instantly in japanese with subs, without having to re-download which takes time I'd rather spend watching the anime I got hyped up to watch, pretty much it's a guarantee to get what you want when you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
†Anras Rune Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 same here really...i normally dl exclusivly duals as i prefer the ability to switch when wanted. I've seen more than enough series to know that on the odd occasion you get really, REALLY bad dubs. When that happens i just switch. Also the encodes do take up very little space in the first place. Or should i say, the encodes i use are tiny in the first place, so the extra 10 mb for and extra language and subs dont bother me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkie Pie Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 The only thing I will download or watch is the sub, so I don't even bother with dual audio.There are too many series out there that are amazing that will never get licensed for me to just stick with the dub of anything. Most of the time, the dub is horribly acted or has people that aren't suited for the character providing their voice and I'm just not going to deal with that :v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vael Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 this is my opinion, don't take this personally, like I said my opinionI reckon it's highly ignorant, to completely ignore one, and refuse to watch one no matter what, it's okay to have a PREFERENCE and prefer one or the other, it's okay to just watch the dubs just because your to damn lazy, and even if you get way to annoyed by the lip syncing to bear it (but it's not that bad in some cases) but seriously? sometimes I prefer the Dubs to the subs and vise versa, thats why I really appreciate, Dual audio it gives you two sides of the same coin in one DL, so you can sample both, see which you like more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
†Anras Rune Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 i think i've confused myself, i meant i normally dl exclusivly dual, IF there is a dub. Most of the time i dl subs due to the vast difference in availibility. Another thing, those that completely ignore dubs and say god knows what bout the people that watch them should be forcibly ejected from the planet...for they is wapanophiles, the bane to the anime community. ^^I watch dubs for what they are, easier to follow, saves me the strain of trying to listen to the anime, read the subs and watch the action all in one. In saying that i've got a large collection of subs on the side that i enjoy watching sometimes. It is everyone's personal preferances. Dubs are dubs and subs are subs...but dual is the best of both worlds...XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
†Irish Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 As Koby said, the Dub community is much smaller than the Sub Community... Dual-Audio Caters to both sides, If you don't like the Subs, then just watch it in dub, if you dont like dub switch to the sub...I Personally Prefer watching the subs compared to the dubs. there are for more titles out there that have not been licensed or dubbed yet. You get more of a selection in my opinion. But to each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renzourin Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 the only thing i dont like about dual audio is the subtitles i have to manually turn them off for it because their for the japanese audio track and never the english so they mismatch with the dubbed dialog which annoys the piss out of me if they dont match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 the only thing i dont like about dual audio is the subtitles i have to manually turn them off for it because their for the japanese audio track and never the english so they mismatch with the dubbed dialog which annoys the piss out of me if they dont matchMany files either have subs turned off by default or they include a sub track for the Dub audio. Even if they don't.. in MPC-HC.. turning off subs is as easy at hitting the 's' button on your keyboard to switch tracks or turn it off. Not a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renacho Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 I prefer English Audio. That way I can watch and browse the internet or do other things while its playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumRoll Posted May 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 garr I wasn't trying to stir up the 'my method of watching anime is better' debate.I am looking at the more technical side of it as I have to convert everything for my xbox 360 as it can't play mkv which dual audio always comes in. Single track anime sometimes comes in avi or mp4 which makes things SO much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartender Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Anime is for watching if u wana read get the manga , I hate watching the bottom of the screen all the time thats why I only watch subs if there is no dub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero D. Ace Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 garr I wasn't trying to stir up the 'my method of watching anime is better' debate.I am looking at the more technical side of it as I have to convert everything for my xbox 360 as it can't play mkv which dual audio always comes in. Single track anime sometimes comes in avi or mp4 which makes things SO much easier.In that case, why not just use Handbrake to change the container from MKV to MP4 and remove the audio track that you don't want. From what I've heard, it's almost as fast as copy/pasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumRoll Posted May 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 handbrake?hmmm I shall try this. I already tried it once for hardsubbing but failed so I deleted it... but I will DL again.So its faster than converting you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
†L4ugh Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 If you use the gui version of handrake it will encode the video again which will take a while depending of length of video and what settings you use.If all you want is the video in mp4 you could try demuxing the mkv and then remuxing into mp4. To demux use a tool like mkvextrack or mkvcleaver. Then to remux try using the MP4Muxer(It's in the tool/muxer menu in MeGUI). I haven't play around with this at all but I see no reason why it shouldn't work. All you are doing is extracting the video, audio, and subs from one container then putting it in another. You could also leave out any audio/sub tracks that you don't want when you remux, and the whole process should be pretty quick.Also I prefer keeping all the audio/sub tracks with the video so I can preserve the original content as much as possible. Whose to say that in the future you won't learn how to speak Japanese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyon Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 I love Dual Audio for the same reasons some people that have posted here which names have eluded me just now. If the Dub is just...sad, I switch to the Sub for a better experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumRoll Posted May 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 If you use the gui version of handrake it will encode the video again which will take a while depending of length of video and what settings you use.If all you want is the video in mp4 you could try demuxing the mkv and then remuxing into mp4. To demux use a tool like mkvextrack or mkvcleaver. Then to remux try using the MP4Muxer(It's in the tool/muxer menu in MeGUI). I haven't play around with this at all but I see no reason why it shouldn't work. All you are doing is extracting the video, audio, and subs from one container then putting it in another. You could also leave out any audio/sub tracks that you don't want when you remux, and the whole process should be pretty quick.Also I prefer keeping all the audio/sub tracks with the video so I can preserve the original content as much as possible. Whose to say that in the future you won't learn how to speak Japanese.would MKVmerge GUI work for demuxing? I already have it, if not I'll DL one of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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