Child Pornography....what are your thoughts

[lilwill00]

My thoughts are don't do anything that is involved with this subject..

If I catch anybody I come across that has any affiliation with this..

I will hurt you.

[Jack.Raiden]

Earlier my reaction used to be i love it now. Why the hell i ever watched any of those things. t affected my life greatly. My 7th class result went bad. From 87% to 71%.

But I am sure back to 80's this time. I think what is in porn to enjoy Just watch some anime, play console games its best for me.

[† Talena Mae]

Earlier my reaction used to be i love it now. Why the hell i ever watched any of those things. t affected my life greatly. My 7th class result went bad. From 87% to 71%.

But I am sure back to 80's this time. I think what is in porn to enjoy Just watch some anime, play console games its best for me.

You do know this thread is about CHILD Porn do you not?

[RikuoAmero]

All I can say on the matter...two of my sisters were abused by our father. As far as has been revealed, there was no actual child porn made, but the fact they were abused is bad enough...I guess I can sorta empathise with you Talena Mae...what happened tore my family apart.

[AaronScythe]

Firstly, you must define it.

I believe that the vast majority is sickening, but the blanket statement on age is ridiculous.

A good example is that there are many 16 year old mothers out there. In my opinion 16 years old is just as sexually mature as 18, but the law still classes them as children.

But even saying that, there will be people that will rage blindly.

Even more interestingly though, I propose an example to you:

A 14 year old boy and his 15 year old girlfriend film themselves in the act. They are both mature enough physically for every potential threat that sex brings, so they believe they are old enough to film this.

10 years later, the couple is still together, and they view their old tape - someone else sees this and dobs them in to the police as "sick people watching child pornography", they are then prosecuted yada yada.

Question remains, are they guilty? The law makes no distinguishment at all on this matter, so they could very well be found to be guilty, for viewing a personal video of themselves.

IMO, its something you already saw in real life, so it is acceptable to view personally - but not upload to the net.

Still remains controversial though, what would your opinion be in that case?

As for pre-pubescant/still going through it, that is of course sickening, for obvious reasons. But the post, the already physically mature, should they really be held in the same regard?

[lordofelemental]

i really despise the fact about child pornography and prostitution..

we know that it's throughout the world and can't be tolerated anymore. in my age now, i don't even have that kind of lust just to be with a child.. i mean, mature guys should pick the ones with their age now.

but the thing that i see here from the side of those child pornography is these things:

- it's probably the poverty that brings them to the case of selling their small bodies to rich people, which is commonly happening today.

- the fact that poverty mostly rises in each country (like in my place), the government itself cant do anything to do some actions or prevent it from happening. just bringing this up makes me shiver because in my country, our rules and punishment in this sorta thing is very minimal or little. (since that there is no death penalty on my country)

- pedophlia or such, it's probably on the persons lust on how he will control himself.. it makes me sick seeing in the news that there are some parent, brother who will use her little sister to this kind of thing. and in that manner, how come this little girl can stop this kind of situation.

- one of the factor is the era today where teenagers have the freedom to date with a small age. lust is always there, even if they are only 14, 15, 17, or 17 years old.. they can have sex and that's the gist of it.

[RikuoAmero]

Firstly, you must define it.

I believe that the vast majority is sickening, but the blanket statement on age is ridiculous.

A good example is that there are many 16 year old mothers out there. In my opinion 16 years old is just as sexually mature as 18, but the law still classes them as children.

But even saying that, there will be people that will rage blindly.

Even more interestingly though, I propose an example to you:

A 14 year old boy and his 15 year old girlfriend film themselves in the act. They are both mature enough physically for every potential threat that sex brings, so they believe they are old enough to film this.

10 years later, the couple is still together, and they view their old tape - someone else sees this and dobs them in to the police as "sick people watching child pornography", they are then prosecuted yada yada.

Question remains, are they guilty? The law makes no distinguishment at all on this matter, so they could very well be found to be guilty, for viewing a personal video of themselves.

IMO, its something you already saw in real life, so it is acceptable to view personally - but not upload to the net.

Still remains controversial though, what would your opinion be in that case?

As for pre-pubescant/still going through it, that is of course sickening, for obvious reasons. But the post, the already physically mature, should they really be held in the same regard?

Well, the law does say that at the ages you mentioned, you're not capable of giving consent to sex. Therefore, since no legal consent was given on either party, the law would see this as child abuse and as child pornography.

In Ireland though, we have an insane law. Say a fifteen year old boy and a fifteen year old girl have consensual sex. There's no filming of it, but later, the girl goes to the police. The law (Section 3 of the Criminal Law (Sex Offences Act 2006)) states that the girl cannot be prosecuted, even if its incest that SHE started.

[seirachan]

The only time I find the ages 13-19 wrong is this. Otherwise I just don't count it.

So my brother had a friend that lived in our basement for years that was dubbed a pedophile. He had over 20 online girlfriends all 13-16(some real life). It came to him lying that he was 10 years younger then he was.(he was 35 by the end of it I think) I'll add in a funny story that 3 girls called in a week saying that Brian hasn't talked to them in awhile and to tell him it's over. So on the last one the only thing I could say was, "You are the third girl that's called saying that this week". Oh boy was she pissed. But my elder brother pretty much grabbed me by the scruff of the neck and punched me. But what can I say that 20 timer deserved it. It wasn't a fucking lie either.

But back to the point here. My other brother even saw him lie about his age to a girl younger then me who was 14 at the time. He said they were talking kind flirty then she asked him what his age was and he said 19. So my brother steps in, "Don't lie Brian, Your not 19 your 29 and you know it!". So she was saved from the pedophile.

I didn't notice it but years later my brother said that old man was trying to hit on me as well. But His life started to go downhill when he saw one of the girls in person in another town. Her parents did not like the relationship at all. Who could blame them. I don't know how this guy gets so many girls but hes as ugly as a dead rat and very slow in the head at that. But when he came back the girl followed him home and he had to go to court. So from there he was told hes not allowed around any girls under the age of 16. Not allowed to talk to them, see them nothing. I think his internet was blocked too.

But they believed he was still talking to them on facebook through his PSP or something. But some people moved in the top floor with a little girl. They were warned if they moved in Brian would have to go to jail but they did it anyways. She wasn't Brian's type cause she didn't have a working Vag yet but the police put him away anyways. But that's Karma for ya. Over 6 years of cheating on underage girls and lying out the ass gets you in jail.

[RikuoAmero]

The only time I find the ages 13-19 wrong is this. Otherwise I just don't count it.

So my brother had a friend that lived in our basement for years that was dubbed a pedophile. He had over 20 online girlfriends all 13-16(some real life). It came to him lying that he was 10 years younger then he was.(he was 35 by the end of it I think) I'll add in a funny story that 3 girls called in a week saying that Brian hasn't talked to them in awhile and to tell him it's over. So on the last one the only thing I could say was, "You are the third girl that's called saying that this week". Oh boy was she pissed. But my elder brother pretty much grabbed me by the scruff of the neck and punched me. But what can I say that 20 timer deserved it. It wasn't a fucking lie either.

But back to the point here. My other brother even saw him lie about his age to a girl younger then me who was 14 at the time. He said they were talking kind flirty then she asked him what his age was and he said 19. So my brother steps in, "Don't lie Brian, Your not 19 your 29 and you know it!". So she was saved from the pedophile.

I didn't notice it but years later my brother said that old man was trying to hit on me as well. But His life started to go downhill when he saw one of the girls in person in another town. Her parents did not like the relationship at all. Who could blame them. I don't know how this guy gets so many girls but hes as ugly as a dead rat and very slow in the head at that. But when he came back the girl followed him home and he had to go to court. So from there he was told hes not allowed around any girls under the age of 16. Not allowed to talk to them, see them nothing. I think his internet was blocked too.

But they believed he was still talking to them on facebook through his PSP or something. But some people moved in the top floor with a little girl. They were warned if they moved in Brian would have to go to jail but they did it anyways. She wasn't Brian's type cause she didn't have a working Vag yet but the police put him away anyways. But that's Karma for ya. Over 6 years of cheating on underage girls and lying out the ass gets you in jail.

From what I read there, that guy does sound like an ass...and so does your brother for punching you, by choosing to defend his scum friend rather than his sister. However, if I had been that guy's lawyer, I would have vigorously defended him about the family moving in above: alright, he's been told not be around girls, but I don't believe he should be jailed if another family move in, which is something out of his control. Alright, ordering him to stay away from the family sure, but jailing him because THEY moved in?

[seirachan]

From what I read there, that guy does sound like an ass...and so does your brother for punching you, by choosing to defend his scum friend rather than his sister. However, if I had been that guy's lawyer, I would have vigorously defended him about the family moving in above: alright, he's been told not be around girls, but I don't believe he should be jailed if another family move in, which is something out of his control. Alright, ordering him to stay away from the family sure, but jailing him because THEY moved in?

I know that was dumb but because this guy is so stupid this is more of a karma thing. He didn't listen to police demands and fucked around with a lot of girls etc. There also might have been something I don't know about *shrug*

[RikuoAmero]

all i meant to say child porn is sick.

Ah, then please in the future construct your sentences a little better. You said "what is in porn to enjoy", which could be interpreted as saying "enjoy child porn".That and saying right at the start you used to watch child porn, it kind of freaked out people like myself and Talena Mae: as I said earlier, two of my sisters were sexually abused by our father, although I don't know if child porn was made of it, thus hearing that someone here enjoyed child porn at some stage makes me angry.

[Luminate]

I do not want to insulate any ones religion. Ask yourself, how can anyone in the high member of societies like a priest even think of a child sexually? It is equal to child pornography. It makes me sick to my stomach.

[Nellio]

These people who are involved with child pornography are sick and mentally disturbed. Many of them believe they are 'loving' the children they are abusing (or filming) and that they are doing nothing wrong. This is not the case for everyone, so don't get me wrong. My point on that comment was THAT is the 'how and why' they could find children sexually attractive.

I find it hard to believe that someone could believe that we (people, society, so on) only believes child pornography to be 'wrong' because society as a whole deigned it so. I believe that somewhere deep down inside of us (maybe not all of us!) there is some sort of moral compass that guides our thoughts and behaviors...although people don't always choose the correct choices, there's an instinct, or a deep knowledge that something is NOT right. Evolution definitely has something to do with it...why would we NEED to have sex with children? From an evolutionary standpoint, I can only imagine that nature sees sex as a means to an end...reproduction. (Not that I have a problem with gay or lesbian couples or whatever...we're talking children as sex objects here.) Children are unable to have children, or are just plain old not physically, emotionally or mentally ready for the task of birthing and caring for children. Even if society crapped its pants tomorrow and decided child pornography was a great idea, socially acceptable and they wanted to sell it at corner stores...that doesn't mean I'd think it was good. If society thought baseball was morally wrong, I'd think everyone was lunatics - there is no harm mentally, emotionally or physically to a child...or anyone in baseball. As Tom Hanks would say...there' no crying in baseball. Maybe baseball was a bit off base for this topic to begin with. The kinds of things these people do to kids makes me throw up in my mouth.

It would take too much typing to express my thoughts on what should happen to child pornographers, molesters, etc. It happened to my mother by her step-father (although he believed her to be his daughter), and I was sexually assaulted as a teenager by my best friends' (for 12 years) father. I have calculated, concocted, jigsaw-puzzled and planned what I would do if I ever met that old pervert in person...or anyone convicted of such a crime for that matter. I have dream vigilante justice issues though, so don't follow in my footsteps. Maybe the fact that I've been a mother for 6 years now makes me a little nutty on the subject.

[seirachan]

These people who are involved with child pornography are sick and mentally disturbed. Many of them believe they are 'loving' the children they are abusing (or filming) and that they are doing nothing wrong. This is not the case for everyone, so don't get me wrong. My point on that comment was THAT is the 'how and why' they could find children sexually attractive.

I find it hard to believe that someone could believe that we (people, society, so on) only believes child pornography to be 'wrong' because society as a whole deigned it so. I believe that somewhere deep down inside of us (maybe not all of us!) there is some sort of moral compass that guides our thoughts and behaviors...although people don't always choose the correct choices, there's an instinct, or a deep knowledge that something is NOT right. Evolution definitely has something to do with it...why would we NEED to have sex with children? From an evolutionary standpoint, I can only imagine that nature sees sex as a means to an end...reproduction. (Not that I have a problem with gay or lesbian couples or whatever...we're talking children as sex objects here.) Children are unable to have children, or are just plain old not physically, emotionally or mentally ready for the task of birthing and caring for children. Even if society crapped its pants tomorrow and decided child pornography was a great idea, socially acceptable and they wanted to sell it at corner stores...that doesn't mean I'd think it was good. If society thought baseball was morally wrong, I'd think everyone was lunatics - there is no harm mentally, emotionally or physically to a child...or anyone in baseball. As Tom Hanks would say...there' no crying in baseball. Maybe baseball was a bit off base for this topic to begin with. The kinds of things these people do to kids makes me throw up in my mouth.

It would take too much typing to express my thoughts on what should happen to child pornographers, molesters, etc. It happened to my mother by her step-father (although he believed her to be his daughter), and I was sexually assaulted as a teenager by my best friends' (for 12 years) father. I have calculated, concocted, jigsaw-puzzled and planned what I would do if I ever met that old pervert in person...or anyone convicted of such a crime for that matter. I have dream vigilante justice issues though, so don't follow in my footsteps. Maybe the fact that I've been a mother for 6 years now makes me a little nutty on the subject.

I agree 100% I'll just add one thing, The main reason why child porn and molestation is bad is because the child is forced into it against their will and doesn't understand why. I was molested by my mothers friend when I was 12 who had a 6 year old son. I got out of it but he didn't stop with me and faced charges. I have no idea why that "man" is still walking the streets. Some bullshit there, and he'd been charged more then once.

Also when a child is being molested the system makes them afraid to sue. If they are of age they get told if they are lying they will go to jail and all this harsh crap. With no real proof at hand they will probably just take it as a lie. Why I hate the justice system. I was basically dubbed a liar to the police man before I finished my sentence.

[uendldjrole83]

Its something that makes me dissapointed in humanity. Theres really no word to describe how pitiful it is. In jail, child molesters are treated the worst. No matter where you are, nobody has the right to take a life for their own sick needs, nor scar a life.

[Mohji]

I don't really see anything wrong with drawn or animated child porn (lolicon, etc.), as people do have some pretty weird fetishes - and it's better to get their "fix" from this medium as opposed to actually going out and committing the act.

On the other hand, any act that sexually exploits children is absolutely disgusting. I can't even stand the thought of it.

[BlackDahlia]

I thought we were talking about child porn, not child abuse? Sexually abusing a child does not make it porn! I feel like most people actually discussing the topic here are only talking about child abuse, not child porn, which is the topic at hand. Everyone else is just saying "eww" and not really contributing to the discussion. Whatever lol

The main issue with trying to justify child porn is the word "child." In a place where a 5 year old, a 12 year old, and a 17 year old are all considered children, it's kind of hard to make any part of it acceptable. A few years makes a big difference. Yes, we don't have 6 year old kids having sex, but 13 year old kids? I wish I could say the same, but that just isn't the case. Yet, when one thinks of child porn the image of an abused 6 year old comes up, not consensual 16 year olds having sex and filming it.

That being said, everything after this is regarding "children" the age of, say, 13 and above:

Okay, there is porn based around more socially acceptable fetishes like specific body parts, clothing, toys, etc. Then we have porn based around other less socially acceptable fetishes like rape, torture, binding, incest, etc. Why is child porn any different?

I think it's kind of odd how people can like lolis, or the image of a loli (you know, those that just look like little kids, "but they're actually a lot older, so it's okay") in hentai, but if anyone mentions child porn, all of a sudden it's a bad thing. "Oh, but it's not real." Not real people? True, but the actions are the same. There are a lot of people who are in the closet about this because it's not a socially acceptable thing. My opinion is, if it's okay to watch little anime girls have sex, it's okay for people to watch little kids having sex.

Why? Because it makes sense. It makes no sense to me that people say loli hentai is okay because it will keep [some] people from actually acting on these feelings. Child porn would be exactly the same thing. Hell, for some people it might even change their minds about it to actually see real people in real situations.

Is it something I'm into? Hell no, keep that crap away from me. It doesn't interest me in the slightest. But I see no reason to make an exception for real humans when it is perfectly legal to suggest the theme in hentai "as long as it is known that they are actually of legal age."

[ooobuggame82]

I think asking the general public their opinion about it is kinda pointless. It's wrong. Everyone knows it's wrong, and I think even those who say that it gives such unfortunate children a slight means of income or empowerment know that deep down it is morally objectionable. The real question that should be asked is how to combat it without compromising civil liberties.

Things like sexting between teenagers, (though I wish it didn't happen), shouldn't be a felony offense particularly when minors get charged with felony. That is ridiculous. One can understand why such a law might be like that: to protect the most vulnerable of society. But, we still need common sense.

Things like loli-manga or 3D anime.... that's a tough call. b/c on the one hand, it's fictional, but it is still objectionable. It is outright obscene and should be banned because of obscenity laws? Tough call. I guess something like that is up to the general public to figure out. Personally, I think live action films that show guts and blood everywhere are usually obscene, yet I have no problem seeing blood, guts, organs and viscera if it's part of a medical documentary or even fictional film with a medical context.

Anywho, in all cases where REAL children are involved in lewd images == WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG

[Tenure]

well sometimes people photograph animals, they are small an naked. what makes photographing children bad? not sayin i support it.. just that the difference is sexual intent but a lot of people get off to animals to. and then sometimes photos are artistic, does art draw a line or is it the intended audience