Nero D. Ace Posted July 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 guessing is what you are doing. i've provided facts that are common knowledge and your spreading speculations that have been proven wrong.we're getting nowhere with all this. why don't you just accept that i believe in some things while you believe in other things.BTW, who's the great scientist who proved your facts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raikagesama Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 we're getting nowhere with all this. why don't you just accept that i believe in some things while you believe in other things.BTW, who's the great scientist who proved your facts?They have been proven in the manga and the anime if you have read or watched and PAID ATTENTION. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero D. Ace Posted July 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 They have been proven in the manga and the anime if you have read or watched and PAID ATTENTION.i can go on all night.NOTHING IS FIXED IN ANIME AND MANGA. THE MOST SOLID THEORIES ARE USUALLY THE FIRST TO BE BROKEN.did u ever think of there being nature energy or a way to beat pain, before "sage mode" was introduced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raikagesama Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 i can go on all night.NOTHING IS FIXED IN ANIME AND MANGA. THE MOST SOLID THEORIES ARE USUALLY THE FIRST TO BE BROKEN.did u ever think of there being nature energy or a way to beat pain, before "sage mode" was introduced?no but i never speculated either i like to discuss the facts at hand. but sense you seem to be convinced that obito and madara are one in the same i have found the proof that you need. you stated that sense kakashi's mangekyo sharingan came from obito is a space time jutsu similar to the one that madara has that thats reason enough to believe that they are one in the same. so here is the proof and i want you to read this and look at each of the mangekyo's listed on the page. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Mangeky%C5%8D_Sharingan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero D. Ace Posted July 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 no but i never speculated either i like to discuss the facts at hand. but sense you seem to be convinced that obito and madara are one in the same i have found the proof that you need. you stated that sense kakashi's mangekyo sharingan came from obito is a space time jutsu similar to the one that madara has that thats reason enough to believe that they are one in the same. so here is the proof and i want you to read this and look at each of the mangekyo's listed on the page. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Mangeky%C5%8D_Sharingandon't think i didn't notice that before. it's the only hole in my speculation. it's what's forced me to consider that maybe the body is obito's and it's been taken over by madara. don't take these thoughts seriously. they're just the ramblings of someone with too much time on their hands.i've never once used the word theory and if i have, i apologise.but, don't try to force your thoughts on me. ican't be swayed just because someone tells me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raikagesama Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 don't think i didn't notice that before. it's the only hole in my speculation. it's what's forced me to consider that maybe the body is obito's and it's been taken over by madara. don't take these thoughts seriously. they're just the ramblings of someone with too much time on their hands.i've never once used the word theory and if i have, i apologise.but, don't try to force your thoughts on me. ican't be swayed just because someone tells me toobro i wasnt trying to force my beliefs on you i was trying to give you the facts at hand about Madara and Obito thats all. and im sorry if you thought that that is what i was trying to do. Im a naruto nerd im sorry all i do is read the manga over and over again for things that i may have missed the first time and watch the anime over and over again to see how they match up. its just like when everyone thought pain was the forth and i was the only one who didnt believe that. based on the facts i had at the time. so im sorry as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero D. Ace Posted July 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 bro i wasnt trying to force my beliefs on you i was trying to give you the facts at hand about Madara and Obito thats all. and im sorry if you thought that that is what i was trying to do. Im a naruto nerd im sorry all i do is read the manga over and over again for things that i may have missed the first time and watch the anime over and over again to see how they match up. its just like when everyone thought pain was the forth and i was the only one who didnt believe that. based on the facts i had at the time. so im sorry as wellhold on a sec, i've started naruto about 2 weeks ago.people thought pain was the 4th hokage ............. lolwhich knucklehead came up with that theory? he didn't look anything like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raikagesama Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 hold on a sec, i've started naruto about 2 weeks ago.people thought pain was the 4th hokage ............. lolwhich knucklehead came up with that theory? he didn't look anything like him.yeah that was a pretty rampant rumor lol and i dont know where it came from ppl just believed that pain was the fourth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idl12 Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 I remember there being some page that looked like it came from the manga that showed the leader of the akatsuki removing his hat and revealing his face to be the forth and Kakashi called him master..it has long since proven to be fake though.EDIT: here it is http://img154.imageshack.us/i/191cj.png/actually had me going for a while. but note the term BDSM used in the preveiw text..I unfortunately had no idea what that meant at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero D. Ace Posted July 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 u can tell it's a total fake cause in the real manga, that "next episode" preview is always on the left side of the page or on a panel.they never leave space to write the preview. that only happens in american comics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancakes Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 The goofy guy is actually the strong guy... nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero D. Ace Posted July 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 The goofy guy is actually the strong guy... nicedude, you wouldn't call him goofy if you had any idea how strong he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raikagesama Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 The goofy guy is actually the strong guy... nicehe isnt really goofy its a act to decieve the enemy. its ninja class 101. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itachi2658 Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 I dont even think Tobi is Madara seeing how it has been said he was Madara but yet we have seen his face. Either that or he has possessed some body(namely an Uchiha) because thats the only explanation I can give for him living so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raikagesama Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 I dont even think Tobi is Madara seeing how it has been said he was Madara but yet we have seen his face. Either that or he has possessed some body(namely an Uchiha) because thats the only explanation I can give for him living so long.its already been proven that tobi is madara because when he took off his mask, kisame recognized him. toby was a cover used by madara to prevent the ninja world from finding out who the real mastermind of the akatsuki was. the reason he has lived so long is do to a couple of things. i suggest you read the sage of the six paths story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNight19 Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Yeah everyone knows Tobi's stupid self is just Madara who manipulated Pain since the Akatsuki began. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nameless Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 I had been wondering if Tobi really is Madara himself as we haven't seen his face . If he really was Madara then why would he cover his face with that freaky little mask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Try to avoid using spoilers in topic titles. I've edited it.Anyways to answer your question... yes. He really is Madara. It was confirmed in the manga long ago. Even the anime has confirmed it.. at least if you watch the subtitles.Now while he is Madara... he's more or less a shell of his former self. He doesn't have near the strength he once had since he was injured in his fight against the first Hokage. He plans to resurrect the 10-tailed beast in a plan to pretty much hypnotize the world into unity with him as the worlds god or something along those lines. At least that is what he has claimed in the anime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nameless Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Try to avoid using spoilers in topic titles. I've edited it.Anyways to answer your question... yes. He really is Madara. It was confirmed in the manga long ago. Even the anime has confirmed it.. at least if you watch the subtitles.Now while he is Madara... he's more or less a shell of his former self. He doesn't have near the strength he once had since he was injured in his fight against the first Hokage. He plans to resurrect the 10-tailed beast in a plan to pretty much hypnotize the world into unity with him as the worlds god or something along those lines. At least that is what he has claimed in the anime.then what's point of wearing that mask ;what is he trying to hide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelzy Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 then what's point of wearing that mask ;what is he trying to hide?it's like why kakashi wears a mask? ...just how the story is, but if it comforts you more you can pretend that it is to hide his wrinkles ..... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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