Kamishini Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 So in your opinion who do you think is the strongest lieutenant (vice-captain)? I reckon its Renji, but it could be Yachiru (11th squad lieutenant) its just that we hardly know anything about her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 It'd be tough to say between Ikkaku and Renji. Both have shown they are capable fighters and as well as both having had achieved Bankai, which I don't think any of the other Lieutenant's have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
†Apollo Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 It'd be tough to say between Ikkaku and Renji. Both have shown they are capable fighters and as well as both having had achieved Bankai, which I don't think any of the other Lieutenant's have done.I definitely agree with you here, Koby.However, since Ikkaku's not a Lieutenant, he doesn't count towards this particular thread, so I'll have to give it to Renji. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanodus Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Hmm, yeah, I'm with Renji. Strong powerful, and a good fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 I definitely agree with you here, Koby.However, since Ikkaku's not a Lieutenant, he doesn't count towards this particular thread, so I'll have to give it to Renji. Ah yes, forgot that one little detail. Yachiru is their Lieutenant. However if I remember correctly.. Ikkaku was once offered a chance at replacing one of the Captains but he turned it down because he didn't want to leave Kenpachi. Yachiru may be their captain but it's doubtful that she is a fighter. I believe she is only in that position because the Captain can choose who their Lieutenant is.Of the actual ranked Lieutenant's it's without a doubt Renji.Though we haven't really seen Chojiro Sasakibe's fighting potential. Being the Captain Commander's Lieutenant surely he has some sort of power. Although it was shown in the Soul Society arc that Ichigo overpowered him and knocked him back without the use of his Zanpaktou.As far as favorite Lieutenant goes though.. well I like Shuhei Hisagi, but I just don't think he is on par with Renji. Though his Shikai is powerful. If he ever got Bankai he would be Captain material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
†Apollo Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 You have it sorta right about Ikkaku. He was never offered a captain's spot. That's what he's afraid of. Only a couple of people, like Yumichika and Renji, even know he has a bankai because if everyone finds out, he'll be pressured to become a captain, and he doesn't want to leave Kenpachi. He wishes to fight and die under Kenpachi's order.Of course, that's dumb, because everyone and their mommas know about Renji's bankai and you don't see anyone pressuring him into becoming a captain. He's still Byakuya's bitch lieutenant. Silly Ikkaku. But he should at least be Kenpachi's lieutenant for sure. Then again, Yachiru seems to have some weird scary strength of her own that we just don't know about. She scares the piss out of the rest of her squad (not Ikkaku or Yumichika, she just annoys them, but I mean the regular Soul Reapers in her squad), so I don't know. We never saw that little monster fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Then again, Yachiru seems to have some weird scary strength of her own that we just don't know about. She scares the piss out of the rest of her squad, so I don't know.That could just be that they're scared if they make her mad she'll sic Kenpachi on them. haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
†Apollo Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Haha! Maybe, but I remember that time when she was watching Kenpachi fight, and a Soul Reaper came to like, talk to her or tell her that she should go somewhere, or something, and she was like, "I'm watching Kenny fight." And then he persisted, and she turns around, goes all "I'm. watching. Kenny. fight. Fuck you." with her soul pressure flaring up, and, needless to say, makes the dude piss his pants.Oh yeah, and...As far as favorite Lieutenant goes though.. well I like Shuhei Hisagi, but I just don't think he is on par with Renji. Though his Shikai is powerful. If he ever got Bankai he would be Captain material.Yay Hisagi! Dude, he's like my favorite character! *points to sig* He's super-awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeddragon Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 It'd be tough to say between Ikkaku and Renji. Both have shown they are capable fighters and as well as both having had achieved Bankai, which I don't think any of the other Lieutenant's have done.Renji is a powerful indeed, but the problem is...he has no problem unleashing his Bankai, so if someone close to him saying Rangiku Matsumoto were to know of his Bankai I think with the power of her Zanpaktou she could probably take renji out, Though Renji is a strong fighter he is also weak to Kido which we have seen when he would fought with Byakuya. Matsumoto is more skilled with Kido, and he Zanpakto is just probably powerful enough to slip around renjis Bankai (that is, if she even lets him use it) and take him out. That's Renjis Weakness, hes too hot headed for one but his Bankai if used to chase someone leaves him as a big wide open target. Bankai doesnt really make a soul reaper stronger, its knowing how to use your strengths and Weaknesses that makes you a good soul reaper which Renji isn't that clever when it comes to his Bankai, And well Ichigo isn't clever with any type of power he aquires...but thats a different topic lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitomi Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Bankai doesnt really make a soul reaper stronger, its knowing how to use your strengths and Weaknesses that makes you a good soul reaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbullturret Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 ikkakus the bad man i think him an renji in a fight ikkaku would win its about pushing the limits when you do hit that 2nd release just cuz u have it doesnt make you strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhunter Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 I would go with renji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avith Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 *groans* Yeah ok, it's Renji. As much as I kinda dislike him, I admit he "seems" to be among the stronger lieutenants ... so far. Oh yeah and Ikkaku would definitely kick Renji's ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giandeepdeo Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 I think Renji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmingllama Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Though Renji seems the obvious choice, isnt Yachiru more powerful? Shes got one of the strongest captains twined around her little finger, which makes her much more dangerous than even Renji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nin10 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Ikkaku or Renji idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash1661 Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 I think the strongest lieutenant is Renji especially now in the new mangas that are out. and fyi ikkaku dont count even though he is probably stronger he is not a lieutenant yachiru is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reptoholic Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 I have yet to see all the episode or read the manga, but in regards to who is the strongest lieutenant I would have to say Yachiru. In fighting power we have all seen Renji fight and know that he is a capable warrior. On the other hand if you take a second look at Yachiru you can see that when Kenpachi fights and releases his spiritual pressure she seems like she is not affected at all by it. Even once Renji had achieved bankai he was still partially affected by Byakuya's spiritual pressure. If Yachiru is not affected at all by Kenpachi's spiritual pressure, even though I have yet to see her fight, I believe she has the most potential. I think if she was to get in a real fight she would be a worthy adversary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsky23 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 I would have to say Renji cos he doesn't seem to have a time limit on his banki unlike the other guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reptoholic Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 I would have to say Renji cos he doesn't seem to have a time limit on his banki unlike the other guyTime limit ? Toshiro has a certain amount of time he can sustain him bankai, but he is a captain, furthermore he is stronger than Renji. If you are referring to Ikkaku, it takes a while for his bankai to wake up and reach maximum power, but he is not a lieutenant, he is third seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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