animenerd99 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Ok so while re-watching the water 7 arc, episodes 235-236 to be exact i noticed Usopp really cared for the Going merry, i mean the whole crew did but i don't believe such a disagreement should have cause such a big duel between luffy and usopp. i believe usopp only cared about that ship so much because Kaya gave it to him (unless it explains it somewhere why usopp cared for merry above life it's self) and he really likes her i mean at this point i guess that would seem irrelevant seeming as he hasn't really mentioned anything about her except while they in jaya but i just think usopp was being very selfish with the situation and not thinking about the crew and his action was nothing more then a traitorous act, unless i'm missing something? so the question was Usopp right to fight luffy for the ship or is there some kind of hidden meaning behind it, now please don't flame if this has already been discussed or i'm just very late, i just wanted to know everyone's take on the situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardCaptorAngel Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Like you said he loved the ship and kaya gave it to him which are valid reasons to have a fight i suppose. However, i think that Ussop was being selfish and not thinking about the ship. Its harsh to push the ship beyond its time. it's like riding an animal until it collapses. He should have thought abut the ship and gave it a proper 'burial' instead of waiting until it eventually collapses. I think this is what the shipwrights were getting at. Furthermore, ussop admits he knew the ship was running out of time to franky which emphasis my point that he is being selfish. but it must be hard to get rid of your home and nakama like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narthon Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 The Going Merry was abused. A ship that should have lasted decades was destroyed in less than a year. Granted, it went though a lot. Not many ships fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animenerd99 Posted July 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 The Going Merry was abused. A ship that should have lasted decades was destroyed in less than a year. Granted, it went though a lot. Not many ships fly.That's true but i don't think usopp should've went as far as to battling luffy over it, i just think he was being selfish with the situation, and not thinking of what's best for the crew and the ship, so to me that seemed like nothing more then a traitor's move, i mean he's a coward usually and then he wants to get tough over a ship, if he really cared about the ship he should've went along with dismantling the merry from the start instead of doing some half ass repair and like you said abuse more until it sank and also what if they could've sank in the middle of nowhere, 3 members of the crew have DF abilities so yeah that would've been bad, i personally believe usopp was kinda in the wrong there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narthon Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Yeah, I guess I didn't actually answer the question. Usopp was unreasonable in that fight, they should have done more to salvage Merry into their new ship instead of that fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forestechoes Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 at first you believe Ussop is being childish but after a while you understand his dilemna, with the Going Merry,as a result of Ussops care Miracles happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kappuchu Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Uhm .. Even though he loved Merry Going, he shouldn't have questioned Luffy's decision. He knew that everyone felt the same away about the ship, and it was hard to say goodbye. Despite the fact that he acted childishly, Ussop in fact saved the whole crew, because it was Merry Going who saved them from Enies Lobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssgrim_shade Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 he was wrong.. luffy is the captain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilvor Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 He was wrong. I'm in agreement with most of the comments above, but I don't think that Usopp saved the strawhats by refusing to dismantle the Going Merry because didn't Kaku or someone sink the ship at Franky's place before they(CP9) left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowtheman Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 I didn't worry weather it was right or wrong, I liked how Ussop stood up for him self. In terms of the crew he is the most passionate. It is true though that Luffy didn't mean any real harm and only had the crew in mind. To me Luffy wasn't wrong yet Ussop's mutiny was something that seemed like it had to happen. That and the fight between Luffy and Ussop was great, Luffy almost lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzzooo Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 He was all wrong .. Luffy is his CAPTIN and he has to OBEY him ( despite he is kind of fool sometimes ).But Luffy toke the right decision .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekc_sjsu Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Well it's debatable, usopp wanted to prove his point so there wasn't any better way than challenging luffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiboko Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Uhm .. Even though he loved Merry Going, he shouldn't have questioned Luffy's decision. He knew that everyone felt the same away about the ship, and it was hard to say goodbye. Despite the fact that he acted childishly, Ussop in fact saved the whole crew, because it was Merry Going who saved them from Enies Lobby.i'm totally agree with Kappuchu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldgram Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 I can see why Usopp challenged Luffy but he was still kinda wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubomen Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Firstly apart from the fact that Usopp is as usless as buggy the clown, weak as sin. The ship doesn't belong to him it Luffy's so him trying to act tough and getting his ass kicked in like one hit after spending hours booby trapping that area was beautiful. Also what the captain decides stands which is why Zoro got so pissed at everyone for trying to defend Usopp and saying Luffy is the one going too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BRIGHTNESS Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 At the end of the day the ship was broken and they needed a new one. It was stupid to make a fuss over something they couldn't change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumRoll Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Did anyone ever wonder why Usopp didn't use any of those attacks when he was fighting actual enemies? I mean, it seemed as though he had enough explosives to sink an entire fleet in his giant man-purse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolusmaster Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 He was never going to win, why bother.. It's not like the crew supported him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrtoo Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 As some of the others in this thread have said, the poor ship was beaten, battered and bruised.And was continuously patched up. There was no way to really save it, so i dont see why usopp was so angry... He needed to accept the reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zino Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 It was right that Usopp challenged Luffy. Because crew seemed too perfect before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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