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rock lee was way stronger then both naruto and sauske back then and he still would be if it wournt for Garra injuring him and if he didn't get injured he would have gotten even stronger. Perfecting his technique, and getting even quicker then before. But enough of talking about what could have been, I'm only being biased because I like Rock Lee more.

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theres no reason for naruto to get angry with lee, it would certainly be a fight between friends so no nine-tails chakra in the fight. PLUS the nine-tails chakra shouldnt be factored into this as its not really naruto who would be fighting

I see your point, but I don't think Naruto's nine-tailed beast can be excluded completely. He's a jinjuriki and without it he'd die. It's a part of him. But in terms of the individual's actual fighting power, I guess you have a case.

As for your second point, unless it was a friendly sparring match, what would stop the nine-tails chakra from emerging in battle (other than the possibility of Naruto controlling it)? The nine-tails emerges when Naruto lets his emotions get the better of him. Not to mention, in Naruto's fight against Sasuke, they were friends and the nine-tails still emerged.

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I see your point, but I don't think Naruto's nine-tailed beast can be excluded completely. He's a jinjuriki and without it he'd die. It's a part of him. But in terms of the individual's actual fighting power, I guess you have a case.

As for your second point, unless it was a friendly sparring match, what would stop the nine-tails chakra from emerging in battle (other than the possibility of Naruto controlling it)? The nine-tails emerges when Naruto lets his emotions get the better of him. Not to mention, in Naruto's fight against Sasuke, they were friends and the nine-tails still emerged.

We haven't been shown his abilities since training with Bee but it's assumed he now has complete control over the nine-tails and can use his abilities when he pleases.

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Even without the fox, Naruto could just use its passive effects to pump out clones and tire Lee. So unless Lee went all out right from the start without Naruto using any fox stuff, then no way he could win.

that would also tire naruto out, don't forget without the fox naruto can't use exesive ammounts of shadow clones.

shadow clones; they are foribidden because using them is an extreme risk to the user.

lee uses a forbiden technique too, but he has mastered them without special help.

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that would also tire naruto out, don't forget without the fox naruto can't use exesive ammounts of shadow clones.

shadow clones; they are foribidden because using them is an extreme risk to the user.

lee uses a forbiden technique too, but he has mastered them without special help.

The fox passively gives him chakra even when he isnt using it, just like it heals wounds. Without that, he wouldnt be able to do anything since he would have like no skill and no chakra. Without that, he wouldnt be trained by jiraya either... So lee would destroy him like before the chuunin exams

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The fox passively gives him chakra even when he isnt using it, just like it heals wounds. Without that, he wouldnt be able to do anything since he would have like no skill and no chakra. Without that, he wouldnt be trained by jiraya either... So lee would destroy him like before the chuunin exams

I generally meant if naruto did not have the fox inside him at all.

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Rock Lee would win. Naruto is nothing with out the Nine Tales.

To prove you wrong, I'll say look at Gaara. The tailed-beast was removed from him and he doesn't really seem affected much in power because of it. For the most part until you fully master the beast and get it to accept you all you really get is access to an abundance of chakra. Therefore the strength you have seen thus far has been Naruto's strength. Naruto is haxed and would pretty much dominate anyone these days aside from Tobi and Sasuke.

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To prove you wrong, I'll say look at Gaara. The tailed-beast was removed from him and he doesn't really seem affected much in power because of it. For the most part until you fully master the beast and get it to accept you all you really get is access to an abundance of chakra. Therefore the strength you have seen thus far has been Naruto's strength. Naruto is haxed and would pretty much dominate anyone these days aside from Tobi and Sasuke.

The Nine Tails gives Naruto a steady flow of chakra and heals wounds. Without that, he would have to finish his fights faster or risk running out of chakra and physical prowess.

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