ZeroPenguins Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Hey guys! I'm doing a comparison for you guys on these three popular decoders for the H.264 codec. I have all three decoders installed on my computer, so I thought I might as well test it and see which one is the best.From what I noticed CCCP (FFDShow), CoreAVC and MadVR are almost same in terms of quality, if you are outputting the file at its native video file resolution. As seen here:Forge's Hi10P 720p Heaven's Lost Property - CCCP vs MadVR:http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/101595Forge's Hi10P 720p Heaven's Lost Property - CCCP vs CoreAVC:http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/101598Forge's Hi10P 720p Heaven's Lost Property - CoreAVC vs MadVR:http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/101601For the 480p to 720p upscale you can notice a slight difference with MadVR (more sharper) and while CCCP and CoreAVC looks the same.NMH's 480p Durarara!! - CCCP vs MadVR:http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/101602NMH's 480p Durarara!! - CCCP vs CoreAVC:http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/101603NMH's 480p Durarara!! - CoreAVC vs MadVR:http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/101604Wow I had a lot of issues uploading it to screenshot comparison >.> I hope you guys find this useful! Hopefully this will help you guys decide which decoder is the best to use. If you ask me, it doesn't really matter. It's all up to personal taste, since the difference between them is quite small in terms of quality. I'm sticking with CoreAVC for now (since it is a lot faster than FFDshow), but will use MadVR when upscaling. I'm keeping CCCP as well, because when I installed MadVR I didn't install audio decoders or any of those other stuff the MadVR needs since CCCP already offers them and I had it installed long before MadVR or CoreAVC.Jeez it's like 3am here >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
† An IP BreAKDoWN Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Personally I like CCCP > CoreAVC > MadVR. I wonder how PowerDVD does in comparison to the rest of these three? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odeiux Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 When I switched to madVR I was blown away by the color, and how sharp the blacks were compared to VLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 When I switched to madVR I was blown away by the color, and how sharp the blacks were compared to VLC.Of course you would be.. considering VLC doesn't even play HD to start with...Anyhow, CoreAVC isn't a free program. However with 8-bit it played quicker allowing crappier PC's to play HD files that couldn't handle them in the other renders. However with 10-bit CoreAVC is actually slower and not recommended at all. It's crap when it comes to 10-bit. It might look good, but it's causes extra un-needed load on the cpu.MADVR was recommended at first over CCCP for 10-bit, however the reason for doing so has been solved and now there is absolutely no reason to bother with extra installation steps or confusing n00bs. The easiest method is still simply to install CCCP.As for the sharpness, that can actually be adjusted in the settings as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Den Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 By the looks of it, it seems like madVR is just a tiny bit more sharper than either CCCP or CoreAVC. But you could hardly tell the difference cause it's not by much.But how did you manage to install all three on the same PC, I could have sworn they said you must clear out all the other decoders before installing either.edit, Koby said it, the easiest to install is CCCP it's just a simple click, click and your done. Unlike madVR but it's worth it in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroPenguins Posted January 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Of course you would be.. considering VLC doesn't even play HD to start with...Anyhow, CoreAVC isn't a free program. However with 8-bit it played quicker allowing crappier PC's to play HD files that couldn't handle them in the other renders. However with 10-bit CoreAVC is actually slower and not recommended at all. It's crap when it comes to 10-bit. It might look good, but it's causes extra un-needed load on the cpu.MADVR was recommended at first over CCCP for 10-bit, however the reason for doing so has been solved and now there is absolutely no reason to bother with extra installation steps or confusing n00bs. The easiest method is still simply to install CCCP.As for the sharpness, that can actually be adjusted in the settings as well.Oh really? I didn't know that about CoreAVC, but most of what I have are in 8-bit so CoreAVC is more of a better option for me. MadVR does allow you to use different filters for sharpness, I will experiment with those and CCCP also offers extra settings through FFDShow. I should also note that I installed the latest version of each and all were with default settings, with only a few settings changed to allow me to take screenshots. By the looks of it, it seems like madVR is just a tiny bit more sharper than either CCCP or CoreAVC. But you could hardly tell the difference cause it's not by much.But how did you manage to install all three on the same PC, I could have sworn they said you must clear out all the other decoders before installing either.edit, Koby said it, the easiest to install is CCCP it's just a simple click, click and your done. Unlike madVR but it's worth it in the end.True, but you generally tell the difference between them if you upscale a lot more than what I did. And for installing three on the same computer, it is quite easy to do and very possible, those guides are for newbies so they tell you to uninstall all codecs so it won't conflict with each others. But if you know what to do, you can set each player to use a specific filter, it isn't a hard thing to do. I used FFDShow audio decoder with each of those and they were installed from CCCP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuro123qwer Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 madVR uses Graphic Cards Features which usually used by gamesthat's why Quality & Color is better compared to CCCP or k-liteyou need at least D3D9 & pixel shader supported GPUFor 10-bit video's madVR Outputs P010 Color Spacebe sure to confirm by enabling OSD with Ctrl+J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxin Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 i use madvr in MPC HC because thats the only renderer that eliminates completley tearing on my plasma tvcoupled with ReClock + ffdshow for audio+video its the best combo for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Lord Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 When I switched to madVR I was blown away by the color, and how sharp the blacks were compared to VLC.I really shouldn't be surprised by that response, but you have helped me decide which player I want. Im gonna go with madVR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolockit Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 What did you use to take screenshots? MPC-HC itself? This, for the "upscaling" portion, is all kind of questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroPenguins Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 What did you use to take screenshots? MPC-HC itself? This, for the "upscaling" portion, is all kind of questionable.Yes what else could I use? I don't want to use crappy WMP, MPC-HC is what I currently use. Lol how would have you done it zolockit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumRoll Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I use the k-lite codec. What are peoples' opinion on it? Although, I rarely watch anime on my computer anyway, I stream to my 360 for various reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parata Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 K-lite is harming your computer since its replacing some of default windows element (video-related ) it is better to use CCCP instead -------MadVR no comments since I stop using it ...........^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draximum Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I am a fan of CCCP, it does not really have much competition when it comes to 'my' decision on which I like the most. While its default settings are not the best, after fixing them to my liking I am more than satisfied and get great picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroPenguins Posted January 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I should note, this is really old shit here. This comparison was a test for people who installs and don't tweak settings. I don't think the images work anymore and also there has been a lot of changes to CCCP and a lot of improvements to MadVR. Personally I just use MadVR + xy-VSFilter + FFDShow Audio filter and MPC-HC as my media player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcham Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 VLC and KMPlayer are the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renzourin Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 VLC and KMPlayer are the best. in all actuality vlc is still one of the worst players out there even if it has modernized some it still cannot match mpc hc with either cccp or klite depending on your preferences and no the images do not work anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
professa X Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Ok see now im lost. I though the best video player is vlc. Its got all theses little tweeks that make using it nice. but i didnt like mpc since it wouldnt read subtitles all that well. So i read about it and apparently vlc is shit compared to a MPC-HC with madVR. I just wanna know how i can make it feel like VLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonadez Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Ok see now im lost. I though the best video player is vlc. Its got all theses little tweeks that make using it nice. but i didnt like mpc since it wouldnt read subtitles all that well. So i read about it and apparently vlc is shit compared to a MPC-HC with madVR. I just wanna know how i can make it feel like VLC. Try PotPlayer best so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessex1990 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 I use CCCP for everything. Although when I had a slower computer I used CoreAVC for smoother playback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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