jetleo1111 Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 To be honest, I couldn't care for Copyright laws especially when it comes to downloading on a paid subscription to a download site just to find that the download was removed due to Copyright infringement. That to me is just pointless and a waste of £30 or $56. For any anime lovers (especially Naruto fans) would agree that downloading should be part of our rights, paid or unpaid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Den Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Ok so I get where your coming cause Naruto and other series aren't aired in all countries but if every anime fan thought like you then anime would never be dubbed cause how are those companies supposed to continue dubbing if no one buys there dvd's.If you were a true anime fan then you would buy the anime you enjoyed watching the most to show support. I right now I'm planning on buying the Naruto DVD box sets to show support that I enjoyed the series so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Lord Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Copyright can be a pain but I understand why its there. If you put your heart and soul into something to sell to the public then only find out that its been distributed else where for free and no one is paying for it then you wouldn't even bother making another, such as animes.Not to say I don't mind the free stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Den Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Copyright can be a pain but I understand why its there. If you put your heart and soul into something to sell to the public then only find out that its been distributed else where for free and no one is paying for it then you wouldn't even bother making another, such as animes.Not to say I don't mind the free stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Lord Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Every one loves free stuff. But I couldn't agree with you any more, if I put my heart in creating something I don't want it distributed for free, but in the case of anime it's different. Some anime fans (I'm talking about the non lechers) download an anime series but if they see the like it the they will go out and buy that series to show how much they enjoyed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyroahlex Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 yes it is the stupidest and i makes my life a living hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNoName Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 You people aren't thinking over it carefully. Think about it, how do you think anime makers' life would be when no one will buy their stuff, rather they'd download stuff that too legally? If you paid $56 for something and it got removed due to Copyright infringement, then it's as natural as it get, dammit!. C'mon now, you can't blame the Copyright laws for this, because, well, they are right. Oh and by the way, all of this is coming from a man who buys stuff he likes, especially animes. Even if I don't have enough material, I still believe in buying after watching. At the same time, I'm not saying you should stop downloading or anything, because due to pirating people get introduced to stuff. But asking for removal of laws is too much, let alone stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 I understand the reason for copy right but to be honest i dont care about it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLostFool Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Copyrights are important or else the people who are making these animes won't make money, without money they wont be making animes. simple, everyone needs to eat and making anime is just away for someone to eat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Laws are more important than entertainment through a stupid screen that roughly lasts an hour per episode for me. As an artist who dreams of becoming an animator or comic artist, I am fully behind copy right. Without it, where would the funds come from? Yes, money is needed but where there is a will, there is a way. I try my very hardest never to download music, anime or manga for free! I don't have a job or pocket money to ensure that I can always buy what I take for free online. Once, I read a Chobits manga online and the guilt was so drastic, I bought the volume I read the next day. It's just not right to ignore it in my opinion. As for it not being local, the answer is simple. Ebay. I'm not that selfish to steal from others... It's unfair! ): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayd Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 it can be annoying, but u won't like that if someone download something for free for something u worked on really hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuoAmero Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Hmm...looks like I'm in the minority here then! I oppose copyright law. Here's my reasons whyThere are other ways of making money from your content that don't rely on copyright law. I saw from at least a couple of the responses something along the lines of "how else am I supposed to make money on my content?" Find a way, that's how. A band makes music, their tracks get downloaded a lot online...perhaps they should start selling scarce seats to a concert. The more people who like their music online, the more people who will want to see them live.Leading on from Point 1, copyright today has become a business model issue. If Japan makes an anime series, but airs it only in Japan, how is there infringement if I get it online and watch it? Yes, technically, the person who uploaded the episode infringed, but the downloaders didn't. The product isn't available legally in their country.Another reason, is that media, especially in the digital age, has become an infinite resource. It doesn't cost anything to copy a file once it's on a hard disk or to transmit it over the internet. Therefore, to say to me that you want to charge me to do something that by its very nature carries no cost to you, seems absurd. Someone savvy in marketing and economics ought to be able to realise that the only thing you can sell is a scarcity . Every single thing you buy in this world is based off the premise that there's only a finite supply of it and those who want it, must pay. Food, Gas, Electricity, other physical objects...all are finite and all are priced accordingly.Not so digital media. If I download something, you aren't out one unit of product. If I download a manga, it doesn't disappear off of a store's shelf. To convince me to buy something that's digital, you have to make it worth my while. Here's something that content creators must understand about selling their work. No matter how much you value and prize your content, the market will never even come close to valuing it the same way as you. You may put five years of your life into writing the perfect manga or making the perfect movie, and sunk the GDP of a small nation into it. That doesn't matter to me or the rest of the market. I think of the movie in terms of something that will entertain me for a couple of hours...and stimulate my grey matter for a while longer than that, but beyond that? If you want me to buy digital media, make it worth my while. For example, lemme count my Steam library...50 titles (although a few are expansions and at most three of the games I got free, I know I got Portal 1 for free, not 100% sure about the others...there was something from Half-Life I got for free for having an ATI card). Everything there is bought and paid for, not because Steam holds the copyrights, but because the service I get is worth my money. I can redownload the games easily, back them up easily, play them on as many computers as I want etc etc. In other words, I'm willing to part with cash because I get much more than content. I get a scarcity, which is service. Steam would have no obligation to me to let me download their games off their servers if I hadn't paid for them. That's a scarce service I have to pay for.As for manga/anime...if I choose to buy them in "real" physical form, that would mean that I value having a physical scarce copy of the manga enough to want to pay for it. I wouldn't shoplift from a store (used to as a kid, not anymore).Basically, at most, if I infringe copyright, its because the seller hasn't convinced me that what they have is worth it. They haven't convinced me to pay for it. I do pay for things, but only if I feel I get my money's worth.Just to put things in perspective: I donate to Kametsu. Not because of the links to content, I can find them elsewhere on the web (although it is handy to have it all indexed here for easy access ^^). Rather, I view that what I'm paying for is the community, the sense of belonging. Something that is scarce to begin with. I want to reward Koby and the others for all their hard work and for making such an awesome site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohohotralala Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 It's annoying, but things are copyrighted so their ideas aren't stolen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuoAmero Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 It's annoying, but things are copyrighted so their ideas aren't stolen.You can't steal an idea. Physically impossible. Ideas cannot be copyrighted, only a specific expression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la5er Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 They are pretty pointless when it comes to software development. Anything can be reverse engineered by just figuring out how a system works. Any theatrical themed work however are copy writable to an extent as they have a high degree of randomness.Music copy writes fall in the same boat as software development. Easily reproduced and reverse engineered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuoAmero Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 They are pretty pointless when it comes to software development. Anything can be reverse engineered by just figuring out how a system works. Any theatrical themed work however are copy writable to an extent as they have a high degree of randomness.Music copy writes fall in the same boat as software development. Easily reproduced and reverse engineered.Your post doesn't make any sense. Okay with the first two sentences, but its after that it gets confusing. Randomness? You state theatrical themed works are copy-RIGHTable (its spelled RIGHT not write) then very next sentence exclude music? How do you reverse engineer music?Please rewrite your post because I can't make heads or tails of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gekku Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Yes! It is such a annoying concept. That is why I hope creative commons finds more support throughout the world-wide community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitaminka19 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 You need them for right protection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowtheman Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Okay were should I start. First the technical stuff. No you cannot copyright an idea. Yet you can copyright the outcome of that idea. (Art,books,tv ect.) How would you like if I......You can't steal an idea. Physically impossible. Ideas cannot be copyrighted, only a specific expression.This is my post not yours, you can't say I didn't think of it before you posted. MINE. Mine all mine. Your ideas put into post are now mine. Not a vary polite or good thing to do. How ever there are exceptions to the whole thing. Heres a fun fact. They are only losing money when you grab a competing (pirated) item. Like buying a game from a van rather than bestbuy. Bestbuy and the people who made the game lose out. Yet if there is no competition there can be no loss. Most anime now a days is grabbed off the net, and isn't officially released outside of Japan. Hence there not actually losing money on these. This has been proven. Note that I am also some one who when he gets the chance will buy my anime when I like it, other wise I download. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumRoll Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 There is no such thing as a free lunch-unless someone goes hungry.I understand your point but copyright laws are there for a valid reason. Without them it would be like a bank that gives money away for free-it just would not work. Even the denizens of the anime industry have to make a living and buy food etc.And TBH I would probably buy my anime on dvd if I could afford it, and wasn't ashamed to let my family know I watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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