VLC 2.x.x Released

[† L4ugh]

This thread does not exist to keep you informed of the latest release of VLC, but instead for the discussion of the one mentioned below. You can bring up and discuss newer releases if you wish. Just don't expect me to update the status here.

VideoLAN has released the 2.x.x version of vlc, and it's suppose to have much better playback.

Noted improvements are:

Multi-threaded decoding

Improved HD playback

Improved Subtitle rendering

Improved Segment Linking (sort of)

Experimental support for BluRay discs

10bit support

Debanding filter

Cons:

My biggest upset with this new version is still the font cache. It's really disappointing to see such a major improvement without this problem really being addressed.

There is also a noticeable brake in video between linked segments. The green loading bar is hard to miss.

I haven't had enough time to make up my mind about this newest version, but there does seem to be a lot of work that has been put into it. I just wish they could find a way to keep people from having to wait a minute or two for the font cache to be rebuilt when watching something that has odd fonts. Hiding the green loading bar when watching linked segments would go a long way towards hiding the brake as well They seem to actually be hiding it now. :lol: You will still notice the brake if you look for it.

Edit: [7-11-12] VLC now has a beta version that supports android os.

Edited July 12, 2012 by L4ugh

[playlamegetfame]

ill still stick to my windows media player... it plays everythink with the right codecs

[olin555]

Finally; 10-bit support!

Thanks very much for letting us know.

[Koby]

VLC still being shit, lol.

Do they still not properly support OC's?

[ZeroPenguins]

OC's? As in Ordered Chapters? They support it, it's actually integrated into the slider, looks nice. But staying with my MPC-HC for now.

[Koby]

OC's? As in Ordered Chapters? They support it, it's actually integrated into the slider, looks nice. But staying with my MPC-HC for now.

From what I was told and tested out myself, no VLC2 still does not properly support it. It works now, as compared to the old version, but it's still shit. You get a skip in the video followed by a green screen, then often the audio ends up out of sync on the tests with VLC2 using OC's I did. Others are reporting sloppy playback, lagging, and green screens. VLC still doesn't render in HD I think as well. I believe they're still downscaling and upscaling.

[ZeroPenguins]

Oh really? I don't use OC that much, never had the need to skip around. But I tested on Coalgirl's Toradora BD encode, and OC works fine. I didn't get the greenscreen like you said, but I do recall seeing it a lot on the older version. Lags aren't as bad in the new version, so if you ask me, there is an improvement.

[DrumRoll]

I just can't see why people wouldn't use MPC. Its so simple, no shiny buttons and a user-friendly layout.

[ZeroPenguins]

I just can't see why people wouldn't use MPC. Its so simple, no shiny buttons and a user-friendly layout.

You be surprised on how many people use VLC. Since it's the most popular "out of the box" player that plays all files.

[Rinkwolf]

Cool, but can you post a download link for it?

[Koby]

Cool, but can you post a download link for it?

Why would we want people downloading a shitty program that will only cause more issues for us to answer when it fails to work correctly? I get tired of having to tell people on EDK on a daily basis that if they got rid of VLC the troubles they keep posting about would completely vanish. Some argue, but most listen (and those that do always reply talking about how getting rid of VLC fixed the problem).

[RikuoAmero]

Just in case anyone was wondering, it doesn't play commercial Blu-ray discs. I just tried, using my LG Blu-Ray ROM drive and the DRM prevented it from playing. You still need a commercial program like Total Media Theatre to get PC Blu-ray playback.

The stupid thing about this is that a while ago, the encryption key for Blu-ray DRM was leaked. However, the VLC dev team can't use it to program in full Blu-ray playback, because they'd be sued (sorta like with Wikileaks, US officials could access the leaked diplomatic cables on their home computers, but at work, they had to pretend these cables were still under lock and key).

[junh1024]

"VLC still doesn't render in HD I think as well. I believe they're still downscaling and upscaling."

What? I played a 10bit 1080p rip fine.

About BD playback: what they probably mean is support for BD menus.

The 16bframes & center channel 3dB too loud bug was also fixed between 1.1 and 2.0

Also, although WMP is my primary player, I like to have VLC & Mplayer for testing purposes.

Also, VLC is great for playing partially downloaded files as they are downloading. WMP plays up to the last filesize it was opened with, VLC has continuous buffering.

[RikuoAmero]

About BD playback: what they probably mean is support for BD menus.

True. I'll give it a try once I get my new rig up and running. I'll burn a Blu-ray movie disc and see if VLC 2.0 will play non-DRM'ed Blu-rays.

[Rinkwolf]

Why would we want people downloading a shitty program that will only cause more issues for us to answer when it fails to work correctly? I get tired of having to tell people on EDK on a daily basis that if they got rid of VLC the troubles they keep posting about would completely vanish. Some argue, but most listen (and those that do always reply talking about how getting rid of VLC fixed the problem).

..... I've had little to no issues with VLC, I perfer it mostly because of all the hot keys it has. Aspect Ratio change is "A", audio change is "B" and subtitles are "V". It's just very comfortable. Where as Media Player Classic is not. MPC always turns on the subtitle when I don't need then and turns off subtitles when I do when I open up a video file with it and changing aspect ratio is just a chore on it. VLC always plays the video how it was intended (subtitles off and dub audio playing) and changing aspect ration is just a click of a button away.

In short, VLC is just more comfortable and easier to use. Plain and simple.

[Koby]

..... I've had little to now issues with VLC, I perfer it mostly because of all the hot keys it has. Aspect Ratio change is "A", audio change is "B" and subtitles are "V". It's just very comfortable. Where as Media Player Classic is not. MPC always turns on the subtitle when I don't need then and turns off subtitles when I do when I open up a video file with it and changing aspect ratio is just a chore on it. VLC always plays the video how it was intended (subtitles off wand dub audio palying) and changing aspect ration is just a click of a button away.

In short, VLC is just more comfortable and easier to use. Plain and simple.

I'm sorry but I had to laugh when I read this.

"VLC always plays the video how it was intended"....

That line was so far from the truth.

First off, MPC-HC has probably even more hotkeys than VLC, just because you couldn't read the help to figure them out doesn't mean they don't exist.

Secondly MPC-HC plays the subtitles by default as to how the encoder muxed the file to play. If the subs were set to play as default by the encoder then they will. Blame the encoder, not the video player for doing it right. This comment just proves VLC does not play a video the way the encoder intended. Which completely contradicts your statement.

But if you really want MPC-HC not to play as intended and instead play as you want, you can easily configure the subtitle renderer to only load subtitles in the event the audio isn't in whatever language you want. So again, this is a user error, not a player error.

Thirdly, why sacrifice quality to use an inferior player? VLC is like the Internet Explorer of video players. It plays files how it thinks it should, and not how it really should, which leaves much to be desired in the end. To start with, the old VLC (before 2.0) wasn't even able to play HD files in HD. VLC would downscale and upscale among playback for smoother playback so it'd seem to run better on shitty pc's and the users were ignorant to the quality loss. In MPC-HC your video is more vibrant and sharp as compared to VLC, because it's rendered correctly with updated renderers. While VLC was using outdated and often broken renderers.

[Kyle_Dimetri]

Finally; 10-bit support!

Thanks very much for letting us know.

I know right

[sese]

Meh ill give it a try but if it isnt any better then I am going to give mpc-hc a try seems promising

[RikuoAmero]

One thing I've noticed is I can't go to 400% volume. The new maximum is 200%.

[Rinkwolf]

One thing I've noticed is I can't go to 400% volume. The new maximum is 200%.

I noticed that too, wish they would have left it with the 400% like the older one.

@Koby

I always encode and sometime I don't have subtitles for on screen text so I don't set the Japanese Dailogue as default since I don't like watching Japanese Dub if I have a English Dub to watch in stead. VLC plays it without subtitles. However, MPC always turns on the subtitle. To boot I have yet to find a Hot Key for changing aspect Ratio on MPC and VLC literly lets you re render the video. You can mess with a lot of aspects of the video, of which MPC does nothing of the sort (as far as I have checked).

MPC is much more stiff and VLC is much more flexiable and that is what I want in a player. Also, why bring up the past, we are taking about the VLC 2.0.

MPC is a lot less comfortable then VLC, just face it. Yeah, sometime VLC has to build up Cache, but that is the worst problem I've had with it.

Lastly, it's all a matter of opinion and situation. I've had bad experience with MPC and now don't use it, you have had bad experience with VLC and now don't use it. Not reason to be flipping balls because of someone not liking what you like or liking what you hate.