CCCP 2011-11-11 - 'Redundantly Redundant Redundancy'

[Koby]

I just noticed Combined Community Codec Pack (CCCP) released an update earlier this month. The issue with this update is it's not really an update. It's a step in the wrong direction. After installing it and checking it out I quickly uninstalled it and reinstalled the 2011-07-30 release.

Changelog:

• 2011-11-11: And new components are here! Thanks to Nevcairiel we now have much better ISO Media Container (also known as mp4, based on mov), FLV, MPEG-TS parsing and splitting. Thus, a brand new LAV'd CCCP for Win7/Vista/XP, codename "Redundantly Redundant Redundancy"! Download: Win7/Vista/XP.
  
  • Updated components:
    
    • FFDShow-tryouts 1.1.3996
      
    • Haali 1.11.288.0 (2011-09-09)
      
    • LAV Filters 0.39.6bfdb44
      
    • MPC-HC 1.5.3.3819
      
    • VSFilter 2.40.3819.3
      

    [*] General changelog:

    • LAV Filters included. LAV Splitter is used for certain formats where Haali was lacking and where Gabest's FLV Splitter was used. LAV Video and Audio are off by default for the time being, but can be enabled if the user so wishes. Since H.264 decoding with LAV can be very much useful, it has its own checkbox in the CCCP settings application.
      
    • FLV Splitter, CoreWavpack removed. FLV will be split by LAV Splitter, and wavpack will be decoded by -tryouts, as libavcodec's wavpack decoder now supports all of the funnier parts of wavpack thanks to Daemon404 herping a derp at the libavcodec developers. Raw wavpack splitting not possible with default CCCP any more, and we recommend users to either use a proper audio player for that sort of thing, or mux the stream into a container.
      
    • After poking the libavcodec developers with the two types of samples that failed with the ffaac AAC decoder, those are now fixed. This includes things like gg's Moshidora and overall AAC channel count changes in transport streams. The first kind of files are actually broken, but they worked with faad2, so the decoder was adapted to not scream and stop with them.
      
    • DXVA settings removed from the settings app. It touched -tryouts DXVA which never really worked as well as MPC-HC's. If you absolutely, positively want to use DXVA -- we recommend enabling it in MPC-HC. Not that it is any more recommended than earlier.
      
    • Overall installer/settings application updates.
      
    • Start menu entry reordered, now FFDShow and LAV have their own folders, and "Filters" was renamed to "Other Filters".
      
    • MPC-HC's mpciconlib.dll removed. The default icons as well as our original icons both had their problems, and the mpciconlib library isn't exactly small. Now there will be one MPC-HC icon used for all media files, and most sizes should be there. We are open for suggestions on icons and related things.
      

My main concern is the last one. They've did away with the icons for your files that show the file type such as mp4, mkv, avi, etc... and instead all files simply show an icon that says 321 which makes it harder to tell what format each file is in rather than simply being able to look at the icon.

[ZeroPenguins]

I just noticed Combined Community Codec Pack (CCCP) released an update earlier this month. The issue with this update is it's not really an update. It's a step in the wrong direction. After installing it and checking it out I quickly uninstalled it and reinstalled the 2011-07-30 release.

Changelog:

My main concern is the last one. They've did away with the icons for your files that show the file type such as mp4, mkv, avi, etc... and instead all files simply show an icon that says 321 which makes it harder to tell what format each file is in rather than simply being able to look at the icon.

Doesn't really matter if you unticked Hide extension for known file types in folder option. But I suppose I rather have the icons for mp4, mkv, etc etc.

[Dude888]

My version is 2010-10-10, I guess I should update.

But it does not seems that the previous version is available.

Doesn't really matter if you unticked Hide extension for known file types in folder option. But I suppose I rather have the icons for mp4, mkv, etc etc.

Who doesn't show extensions anyway?

[ZeroPenguins]

My version is 2010-10-10, I guess I should update.

But it does not seems that the previous version is available.

Who doesn't show extensions anyway?

By default it doesn't show and this is for known file types, so if it is known by MPC-HC or any other video player as a video file then the file extension will not be shown. By default this is ticked.

[Dude888]

oh and Koby, I went on their forums and I found that you can download the icon library and set it with MPC-HC.

the 2nd reply on this thread : http://www.cccp-project.net/forums/index.php?topic=6095.0

[-Zero-]

My main concern is the last one. They've did away with the icons for your files that show the file type such as mp4, mkv, avi, etc... and instead all files simply show an icon that says 321 which makes it harder to tell what format each file is in rather than simply being able to look at the icon.

I updated to this earlier this month, around the 12th maybe, and honestly, it didn't really bother me that much because I already knew what file I was looking at(I know what I'm looking for before I download it), that and it always shows me what file extension it is when I click it. It'll appear on the bar located at the bottom of the window(Windows 7). It's most likely that I adjusted to looking at the info at the bottom rather than the icon, but that's just me.

They did say they're open to suggestions so there's that, but how long it'll take is something else...

[Koby]

I updated to this earlier this month, around the 12th maybe, and honestly, it didn't really bother me that much because I already knew what file I was looking at

Well, when you have a 10+ TB archive and growing daily by at least a couple GB's it's easier to have it displayed to keep up with them. Anime may be easier because most of everything is mkv now, however other stuff are mov, m4v, mp4, aac, flaac, wmv, mvp4, and more.

that and it always shows me what file extension it is when I click it. It'll appear on the bar located at the bottom of the window(Windows 7).

Yeah in Vista and 7 that bar exists, but in XP it doesn't.

@ Dude888, as you can see I had already commented in that thread before making this one. I tried doing that but couldn't get it to work properly.. probably was doing it wrong. Also you should definitely see about updating to at least the 2011-07-30 release as it's the first one to support Hi10 (10-bit) encodes which a lot of people and fansub groups are now using.

[ZeroPenguins]

I know it should work on Windows XP if you do what I suggested earlier you get this:

It's better than nothing if you ask me. Well gonna try that dll, see if I can get the icons to back and working.

[Dude888]

I installed the newest version yesterday and I see what you mean, this suck. I was sure that it was the same icons even for the .AVI, but then the images appeared. They should definitely create new icons for every types of file.

[Koby]

For anyone wanting the last release with icons 'CCCP 2011-07-30', I've uploaded it here:

http://koby.entitys-arena.co.uk/CCCP-2011-07-30.exe

[Dan Den]

I now see what it is that you were complaining about, all those 321 images are quite annoying. Hopefully they get some icons soon. But in the end I needed the upgrade for some reason, I was using the 'CCCP 2011-07-30' when I tried playing a 10bit video I'd get the same problems as this guy. But after I upgraded to the 'CCCP 2011-11-11' it was now playing just fine. Other than the icons it's better than the 'CCCP 2011-07-30'. So yeah.

[Koby]

I now see what it is that you were complaining about, all those 321 images are quite annoying. Hopefully they get some icons soon. But in the end I needed the upgrade for some reason, I was using the 'CCCP 2011-07-30' when I tried playing a 10bit video I'd get the same problems as this guy. But after I upgraded to the 'CCCP 2011-11-11' it was now playing just fine. Other than the icons it's better than the 'CCCP 2011-07-30'. So yeah.

Then you didn't reset all settings. As there is absolutely nothing different in the way of 10-bit playback between the two. 2011=07-30 is a better release overall.

[zolockit]

\11=07-30 is a better release overall.

Huh?

So let me get this straight. You're whining about cosmetics?

Because that's all icons are, make-up.

Pretty sure you can mess with mpciconlib.dll and get it working with the latest release anyways; but dlls are never fun to mess with.

that and it always shows me what file extension it is when I click it. It'll appear on the bar located at the bottom of the window(Windows 7).

Yeah in Vista and 7 that bar exists, but in XP it doesn't.

Are you guys talking aboot something analogous to this?:

Because the kind of solution I use on Windows XP. I never really used Vista/7 so I maybe wrong...

Yeah shouldn't have any video playback difference from 7/30 and 11/11, if you're using FFdShow+MPC for video playback that is, since nothing crazy really changed upstream.

[Beer]

I'm still using 2009-09-09. Wow, am I out of date. I usually have the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality with most things, so I probably won't upgrade until the first time I have to play something 10-bit.