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i would reccomend mkvcleaver, tis easy to use and works wonders. althought some of the programs mentioned can be pretty processor heavy, so be patient. In saying that, i try to keep all data, like laugh so maybe without the extra tracks and that it would take much less time...

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I don't think that mkvmerge gui can actually demux. I think it is only for muxing the mkv files. Like Gneiss I use mkvcleaver it works with the mkvtoolnix package like mkvmerge so you should only need the mkvcleaver program itself. Mkvextract works with mkvtoolnix as well. Those are the two that are offered on the videohelp.com site for use with mkvtoolnix.

EDIT: Well it looks like this isn't as easy to do as you would think. Every remux I've done so far has had really bad video/audio sync problems. I can't seem to find the right audio delay either. Once I think I've got it's out of sync again. I think this is because Handbrake has encoded them in VFR (variable framerate). I have been reading some stuff on videohelp and doom9 but so far it all requires the use to avisynth scripts to create timecodes to input when remuxing. I'm beginning to think that it is probably easier to just re-encode the video instead. I did come across a mp4 muxer called YAMB that seems to do the timecode creation for you, but it doesn't support .ass subs. I'm also having no luck with getting the ac3 audio during play back in windows media player.

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XBOX360 and PS3 owners might find this useful.

I told myself I was going to write a tutorial on quick MKV->MP4 creation. I lied, well a life-changing business venture has decrease the time I use to be on the site, to almost nill. But how else will I retire before the age of 50.

XBOX360 and PS3 consoles have native support for AC3 and AVC streams found in most .mkv files. They just don't support these streams residing in a mkv container. So, what do we really want: Just dump the streams into a MP4 container.

Sounds simple: IT IS. If you don't need to "shrink" down the audio or video you can simply transpose the AVC/x264 and AC3/audio streams into a .mp4 container.

If you are familiar with "mkvmerge GUI" and "Handbrake" then "Xmedia Recode 3.x" has some features from both apps. It's not a pure muxer like TSMuxer or mkvmerge. But it can recode to any format and setting (bitrate, resolution, etc). If you select the MP4 CODEC you can perform a direct video and audio stream copy and re-mux them into a MP4 container. So after a minute of "encoding" you will have your MKV episode in a nice MP4 container. No more Handbrake re-encodes.

So, what the catch:

Of course there is a short coming. If you have a dual audio file with subtitles the tool seems to only handle VobSub. So, fansubs (ASS or SRT) subtitles are not supported. If you have a VobSub track the tool will re-render it for the MP4 container. So, to do that outside the tool you would use MKVExtract and subtitle workshop to create a VobSub and drag that VobSub into your original MKV. Then "XMedia Recode" can re-render it. Sounds like I should take my current time off and do a guide.

Anyway, if you just want a dub for your XBOX360/PS3 then you can create one from any MKV in a minute. Pow, go watch Soul Eater or Bleach on your game console without having to overheat your PC all night crunching away in Handbrake. I've handled dozens of Kametsu Forums MP4 request with this method. Subtitles, well you will have to decide if tried-and-true Handbrake meets your "impulse" needs or decide to do some prep work so "XMedia Recode" do digest your subtitles.

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On the question: why bother with dual audio:

There are some dubs that are to "Painful" to listen to. I know Naruto Shippuden is sacred around here BUT I've only been able to bare "1" episode of this kids SHOUTING every word. Maybe because I'm old school (I've been watching Anime before most of you where born, starting with "The little prince" back in 1974"). No old guy jokes or I'll steal you soul :hell_boy:

Plus some of the Media Blaster dubs STINK (aka Queens Blade).

Then there are some episodes that you first see via FanSubs and you fall in-love with the Japanese voice characters and can't image them being replaced by an english VOC (like Macross Frontier or the darling Strike Witches). So I always master dual audio (and I've done over a thousand). If someone doesn't like dual audio then they can just launch mkvmerge and yank the subtitle and JAP tracks out easy enough or use "XMedia Recode" to go straight to MP4 format.

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I would like to point out that since making this thread I have actually come to liking DA more than dubs, simply more choice.

Also, chojen I'm too tired to read your posts in full but if you have a way of putting mkv into a mp4 container without having to encode I would be very interested. You should write a guide.

Although at the moment I'm watching DMWL and fairy tail, both in ass sub's so that method won't be of use to me quite yet:)

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I'm more of a fan of dub, but I don't mind watching sub. And I pretty much agree with a few previous posters when they say it is better because you have a choice to watch either sub or dub. Sometimes I watch sub, sometimes I watch Dub, it just depends on what mood I'm in.

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