DEATHxxx50bmg Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Im a soldier so dont be scared to be truthful. i know we have been there too long. just my opinion. what do you guys think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasoivc Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 **In regards to my post, "We" will in most cases refer to the United States.**The whole "war on terrorism" facade? I'm afraid the middle-east conflict is not a war (Factually, it is not a war because congress did not declare it), we're just policing the area so that further conflict doesn't occur. I really do think it's only about obtaining oil from the middle-east. I seriously and whole-heartedly applaud your efforts and risks that you take for an average american civvie like myself, so that I may retain my rights and freedom, but I feel your efforts are not returning full potential compared to the risks you are taking.The U.S. is further digging itself into debt and this "War on terrorism" lasted essentially near a decade, not to mention it is still going, but roughly since then it has been a decade. If we wanted to be statistical, we would've fought world war 1 and re-fought world war 2 back to back in the time we've been "fighting terrorism" and that's not including if we'll be there for the next decade as well. I'm also not sure about the numbers, but we may have very well lost more men and women in this decade conflict compared to our losses in both the great wars from over half a century ago combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEATHxxx50bmg Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 i worded it wrong. i aplogize. the middle east has been at war for centuries. i mean the 10 years and thousands of american and foreign allied soldiers that have been lost. once we leave there is a good chance it will go back to what it was before we invaded. but i understand where you come from. thanks for you opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathan87 Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 wars will never end. there will be space wars to. thats if humanity makes it that far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumRoll Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 sure there will always be wars but this current war has dragged on for long enough in my opinion.We should just leave and tell them that if they step out of line again we'll drop a bomb on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Because that wont encourage them to take action or bomb back and start it all over again. xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Den Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Truthfully humanity has always thrived on warWhen there is time for war in that period of time, technological advancements advance the fastest during thes times. Look ehaat America was able to do in the 6 years of WWII, it was able to build the atom bomb something that would have taken a few decades if there was no need for it.The other reason would be if they was no war people would get soft and when the time of crisis came they would not know how to react.But if they were to just bomb a country to the ground what gives them the right to do so, take it for instance just cause some people are fighting those who are against it have to be bombed to the ground just cause of other, so mistakes, so no offense DrumRoll but that was a stupid comment.And it's nice to see a fellow soldier, I'm going for m military training next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumRoll Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Its only stupid if you leave anyone alive to question your authority.anyway, its what we did in every other war.....and they've all ended.Besides, its no less 'stupid' than fighting this ridiculous war of morals. The war in afghanistan is a farce, soldiers have to play the role of politician when they should simply be fighting.Also, I'm sure whatever our true motive for fighting these wars is; oil, money etc, it'll still be there when the dust settles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuoAmero Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 **In regards to my post, "We" will in most cases refer to the United States.**The whole "war on terrorism" facade? I'm afraid the middle-east conflict is not a war (Factually, it is not a war because congress did not declare it), we're just policing the area so that further conflict doesn't occur. I really do think it's only about obtaining oil from the middle-east. I seriously and whole-heartedly applaud your efforts and risks that you take for an average american civvie like myself, so that I may retain my rights and freedom, but I feel your efforts are not returning full potential compared to the risks you are taking.The U.S. is further digging itself into debt and this "War on terrorism" lasted essentially near a decade, not to mention it is still going, but roughly since then it has been a decade. If we wanted to be statistical, we would've fought world war 1 and re-fought world war 2 back to back in the time we've been "fighting terrorism" and that's not including if we'll be there for the next decade as well. I'm also not sure about the numbers, but we may have very well lost more men and women in this decade conflict compared to our losses in both the great wars from over half a century ago combined.Well..according to Wikipedia (I know, can't be trusted 100%) U.S. military losses in World War 1 were 116,708. In World War II, it was 416,800. That's 533,508. Compare that with 5,921 military casualties worldwide for the War on Terror. For a war that's lasted twice as long as either World War, and didn't have as clear cut a reason for actually going to war (well...beyond Afghanistan), its actually pretty light so far. Of course civilian casualties are in the million plus range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEATHxxx50bmg Posted September 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 true. this war though over 7000 were lost. werent near as bad but still not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumRoll Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 but its a war will we never 'win' unlike WWI and II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathan87 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 WW3 will happen in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumRoll Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 yes. Its is regretable but at some point France will have to be nuked. We must secure the cheese and garlic for the west. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Den Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 yes. Its is regretable but at some point France will have to be nuked. We must secure the cheese and garlic for the west.Oh men your killing me only thing you think about is the cheese and garlic. But your right Naitomeru87 it is around the future but I doubt it will last long cause the real battle will begin after the nuclear hola cost then we will see how long humans can last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumRoll Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Nuclear war will destroy civilization, nuclear winter will deal with humanity itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Den Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Nuclear war will destroy civilization, nuclear winter will deal with humanity itself.Not exactly if you wait it out in your underground bunker and wait for the storm to finish you will survive, you seriously think the government would launch war heads and not have a bunker to protect themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potcho Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Naaah. Famine and disease will kill us off. Then the monkeys will evolve into homosapiens. Then the whole cycle will start again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaoru Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Truthfully humanity has always thrived on warWhen there is time for war in that period of time, technological advancements advance the fastest during thes times. Look ehaat America was able to do in the 6 years of WWII, it was able to build the atom bomb something that would have taken a few decades if there was no need for it.And is there a need for it, even right now? No. I side with the US on almost every conflict the country has had except Iraq, but being the only who has so far used the atomic bomb is a fucking shame for every human on this planet, it was of way of saying "we can do it, and so can you" to the whole arms race; and maybe they will someday, just for kicks. Humanity thrived on war ever since it can remember, and it will continue to do so until there's not much left to burn, because, it's one of the things we *thrive* on, killing our own species is what we do best; if this doesn't make you sad then nothing much else will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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