BluerGost Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) Hi, I am planning on buying a new pc. But I am concerned about which Processor I should buy. I mean I am a CSE student & I know you don’t need a high end PC to do programming. But I really like doing Editing and stuff like AMV. I do play game but not that much. Unless I get hooked up in one then I will play for hours. I am currently very negative towards purchasing AMD. Why!!?? Because I am currently using FX 6100(AMD) and when I video Edit with it using Sony Vegas it works fine at the beginning. But when I have finished editing of 1min long video, I notice noticeable lag in processing my commands & in the previews. Which is annoying!! I notice similar lag when I try to use Recovery Brush in the Photo Shop. Also it’s not very fast when it comes to video encoding. Of course Intel user may face similar problem I don’t know that since I haven’t used high end Intel Processor yet. So, in my next perches I am more into buying Intel and if I have the budget I would buy i7 4770k. But if I have the budget just to buy AMD-FX-8core or 4th Gen i5. Which one should I buy then and why?? Edited July 6, 2014 by bluergost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysterySword Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) I'd buy the AMD. Per core, I believe Intel has a very slight lead in power, but it's such a small difference, it's almost negligible. Not to mention AMD is cheaper and it has more cores. Also I'd feel better about giving money to AMD over Intel (as Intel is for internet censorship and other shady things). Edited July 6, 2014 by MysterySword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluerGost Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Also I'd feel better about giving money to AMD over Intel (as Intel is for internet censorship and other shady things). internet censorship!!?? whats that ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFlower Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 The performance:dollar ratio for AMD CPU's is higher than Intel's. That's really all there is to it. You can get into the temperature differences and the power usage, but in the end an AMD build will almost always be cheaper than an Intel build of similar spec's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluerGost Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 The performance:dollar ratio for AMD CPU's is higher than Intel's. That's really all there is to it. You can get into the temperature differences and the power usage, but in the end an AMD build will almost always be cheaper than an Intel build of similar spec's. That part I am aware of. But other than Frequency which I couldn't care less about, on the performance wise does AMD 8core able to overtake Intel 6core. I am not sure about this part since I heard Intel has the all round performance & AMD is only gud for gaming . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFlower Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Hexa-core CPU's from Intel are the top end... Your use case doesn't appear to warrant spending that much money. As for performance... Intel is generally better at everything except multicore workloads (like encoding; this is where the performance:dollar comes into play). AMD is not better for gaming, and you will not need an Intel hexa-core to beat any of AMD's CPU's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluerGost Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Hexa-core CPU's from Intel are the top end... Your use case doesn't appear to warrant spending that much money.As for performance... Intel is generally better at everything except multicore workloads (like encoding; this is where the performance:dollar comes into play). AMD is not better for gaming, and you will not need an Intel hexa-core to beat any of AMD's CPU's.Hexa-core!! u mean the Extreme Edition ... Thats why out of my reach ATM. So, ur saying Intel i5 will outperform AMD 8core (to me specific FX 8000 series) in all the way except for Multicore workload. But I am using 6100 which is 6core & with using the same encoding setting as someone who uses i5 4th gen It took me about 2x time of his to encode one episode. So, I wouldnt call it better as encoding. Which is one of the reason I am upset with AMD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Hexa-core CPU's from Intel are the top end... Your use case doesn't appear to warrant spending that much money. As for performance... Intel is generally better at everything except multicore workloads (like encoding; this is where the performance:dollar comes into play). AMD is not better for gaming, and you will not need an Intel hexa-core to beat any of AMD's CPU's.Hexa-core!! u mean the Extreme Edition ... Thats why out of my reach ATM. So, ur saying Intel i5 will outperform AMD 8core (to me specific FX 8000 series) in all the way except for Multicore workload. But I am using 6100 which is 6core & with using the same encoding setting as someone who uses i5 4th gen It took me about 2x time of his to encode one episode. So, I wouldnt call it better as encoding. Which is one of the reason I am upset with AMD.Doesn't sound like you're encoding multi-core. Without avisynth filtering, while using multithreading to utilize all 8 cores my AMD FX-8150 encodes at up to 400fps; that means it encoded an anime episode in less than 40 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluerGost Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Hexa-core CPU's from Intel are the top end... Your use case doesn't appear to warrant spending that much money.As for performance... Intel is generally better at everything except multicore workloads (like encoding; this is where the performance:dollar comes into play). AMD is not better for gaming, and you will not need an Intel hexa-core to beat any of AMD's CPU's.Hexa-core!! u mean the Extreme Edition ... Thats why out of my reach ATM. So, ur saying Intel i5 will outperform AMD 8core (to me specific FX 8000 series) in all the way except for Multicore workload. But I am using 6100 which is 6core & with using the same encoding setting as someone who uses i5 4th gen It took me about 2x time of his to encode one episode. So, I wouldnt call it better as encoding. Which is one of the reason I am upset with AMD. Doesn't sound like you're encoding multi-core.Without avisynth filtering, while using multithreading to utilize all 8 cores my AMD FX-8150 encodes at up to 400fps; that means it encoded an anime episode in less than 40 seconds. Its been a while I have encoded anything . But I think I was using avisynth script. It did reach over 3GHz in the CPU usage so I think I was using all the core. I don't see why I wouldn't. And I was wondering about this for a while. Does RAM put any significant difference in the Encoding?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Hexa-core CPU's from Intel are the top end... Your use case doesn't appear to warrant spending that much money. As for performance... Intel is generally better at everything except multicore workloads (like encoding; this is where the performance:dollar comes into play). AMD is not better for gaming, and you will not need an Intel hexa-core to beat any of AMD's CPU's.Hexa-core!! u mean the Extreme Edition ... Thats why out of my reach ATM. So, ur saying Intel i5 will outperform AMD 8core (to me specific FX 8000 series) in all the way except for Multicore workload. But I am using 6100 which is 6core & with using the same encoding setting as someone who uses i5 4th gen It took me about 2x time of his to encode one episode. So, I wouldnt call it better as encoding. Which is one of the reason I am upset with AMD.Doesn't sound like you're encoding multi-core. Without avisynth filtering, while using multithreading to utilize all 8 cores my AMD FX-8150 encodes at up to 400fps; that means it encoded an anime episode in less than 40 seconds.Its been a while I have encoded anything . But I think I was using avisynth script. It did reach over 3GHz in the CPU usage so I think I was using all the core. I don't see why I wouldn't. And I was wondering about this for a while. Does RAM put any significant difference in the Encoding??avisynth scripting by default does not work with multithreading. You have to use a modded version; which the version I had tends to cause memory leaks. encoding can use a lot of ram btw. also, my fx8150 is an octacore and 3.6GHz per core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparation Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Intel is a way to go - lower power consumption, better performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFlower Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Hexa-core!! u mean the Extreme Edition ... Thats why out of my reach ATM. So, ur saying Intel i5 will outperform AMD 8core (to me specific FX 8000 series) in all the way except for Multicore workload. But I am using 6100 which is 6core & with using the same encoding setting as someone who uses i5 4th gen It took me about 2x time of his to encode one episode. So, I wouldnt call it better as encoding. Which is one of the reason I am upset with AMD.I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that a high end quad-core CPU from Intel will beat the most powerful desktop class octa-core CPU from AMD. I don't know which products you're comparing as there are various i5 models, and various FX-8000 models. The general consensus here, however, is that you will pay less and get more from AMD to a certain point. Beyond that point it's either Intel's Extreme range (mainly hexa-core processors) or AMD's server CPU's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluerGost Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Hexa-core CPU's from Intel are the top end... Your use case doesn't appear to warrant spending that much money.As for performance... Intel is generally better at everything except multicore workloads (like encoding; this is where the performance:dollar comes into play). AMD is not better for gaming, and you will not need an Intel hexa-core to beat any of AMD's CPU's.Hexa-core!! u mean the Extreme Edition ... Thats why out of my reach ATM. So, ur saying Intel i5 will outperform AMD 8core (to me specific FX 8000 series) in all the way except for Multicore workload. But I am using 6100 which is 6core & with using the same encoding setting as someone who uses i5 4th gen It took me about 2x time of his to encode one episode. So, I wouldnt call it better as encoding. Which is one of the reason I am upset with AMD. Doesn't sound like you're encoding multi-core.Without avisynth filtering, while using multithreading to utilize all 8 cores my AMD FX-8150 encodes at up to 400fps; that means it encoded an anime episode in less than 40 seconds. Its been a while I have encoded anything . But I think I was using avisynth script. It did reach over 3GHz in the CPU usage so I think I was using all the core. I don't see why I wouldn't. And I was wondering about this for a while. Does RAM put any significant difference in the Encoding?? avisynth scripting by default does not work with multithreading. You have to use a modded version; which the version I had tends to cause memory leaks.encoding can use a lot of ram btw.also, my fx8150 is an octacore and 3.6GHz per core. How do I use modded version of AS?? Also other than Encoding in Gaming,Video/Photo Editing Intel will outperform AMD right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFlower Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 ...You seem to be misunderstanding something here. There is no clear answer to that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluerGost Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 ...You seem to be misunderstanding something here. There is no clear answer to that question. Why not . Then life would be so much simpler :/ . Anyway can someone tell me does Editing Soft take use of MultiCore or just Single ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluerGost Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 ...You seem to be misunderstanding something here. There is no clear answer to that question. Why not . Then life would be so much simpler :/ . Anyway can someone tell me does Editing Soft take use of MultiCore or just Single ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Simple answer: If you're not going to use multiple cores at a time; go with Intel. If you're going to use multiple cores at once; go with AMD. If price is an issue; go with AMD. If you're Bill Gates; go with Intel. If you're mostly gaming; go with Intel. If you're mostly video encoding: go with AMD. core vs core; Intel will win. multi vs. multi; AMD will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluerGost Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Simple answer:If you're not going to use multiple cores at a time; go with Intel.If you're going to use multiple cores at once; go with AMD.If price is an issue; go with AMD.If you're Bill Gates; go with Intel.If you're mostly gaming; go with Intel.If you're mostly video encoding: go with AMD.core vs core; Intel will win.multi vs. multi; AMD will win.What about Video Editing ??"If you're Bill Gates; go with Intel " I wished :v Thats why I was talking about i5 vs 8000 one since they are similar price. Video Editing is my main reason so thats why wanted to know about this one. Also what about gaming , which one will win in that one :3 Anyway thnx guys for the help . In the end there is no clear answer . BTW Koby can u tell me how to use the multi chore in Anisynth, That would be helpful . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Most games don't utilize more than one core. Most programs don't utilize more than one core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluerGost Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Most games don't utilize more than one core.Most programs don't utilize more than one core.So, Since my Main purpose is not Encoding I think I will go with Intel i5. Still dont get why My current one takes such long time. Also If I use 4th gen i5/i7 with AMD R9 270x with 8gb Corsair Ram & Water Cooler How much Voltage PSU can run it smoothly. Any Idea !!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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