Small problem after I flashed my bios

[† ballard]

Simply put, I can no longer use hardware monitoring programs after I flashed my bios. I cleared the cmos, and loaded failsafe defaults. The computer boots up fine. When I attempt to load anything that tries to read temperatures I get a grey or white screen, and I'm forced to reboot. Beyond this problem the computer runs as it should. I could easily live without these programs, but it would still be nice to be able to use them again. Any suggestions on how to fix this would be highly appreciated.

Programs that I've tried:

hwmonitor (grey screen)

cpuz (white screen)

speccy (grey screen with lines across the screen)

[Gero50]

How did you Flash your bios. Meaning was it through a Windows app like @bios or through a bootable flash drive. If you used a program that ran on the OS level such as @bios a error ,ay have occurred either before during, or after the flash was complete at the OS level. In other words your OS is having trouble talking to your bios. You may also want to check, and see if there is any newer versions of the software you're using. The ones you may have, or the version of the bios you flashed may not be fully comparable.

Good luck, and hope this helps.

[† ballard]

I did the stupid thing of updating it through windows using msi live update. Needless to say I somewhat regret doing it XD... This is the first time this has happened to me so I'm not sure how to fix it. I also haven't found much info about it while googling around. If it comes to it I have an asus motherboard that I recently got back from them repairing it that I could use. Unfortunately the software I had was fully up to date. I deleted it to prevent any further issues. I would try reinstalling windows, but I don't have any spare hard drives laying around other than an old 20GB ide HDD. (this motherboard only has sata ports)

What you said did help me, thank you. I will try searching for windows related issues that could potentially occur around these circumstances.

[Gero50]

I did the stupid thing of updating it through windows using msi live update. Needless to say I somewhat regret doing it XD... This is the first time this has happened to me so I'm not sure how to fix it. I also haven't found much info about it while googling around. If it comes to it I have an asus motherboard that I recently got back from them repairing it that I could use. Unfortunately the software I had was fully up to date. I deleted it to prevent any further issues. I would try reinstalling windows, but I don't have any spare hard drives laying around other than an old 20GB ide HDD. (this motherboard only has sata ports)

What you said did help me, thank you. I will try searching for windows related issues that could potentially occur around these circumstances.

That is rough it sounds pretty unique as you mentioned. Though now that you mention it. I may be a bug msi has with their newer revisions of their bios.

[† ballard]

In all honesty though this computer was never running at 100%. I was having major issues with my GTX 480. The drivers kept crashing. After doing a ton of research with that It seems to be nvidia's fault with their latest batch of drivers. I switched over to a Radeon HD 7750, and that fixed the crashing issue. I can't open catalyst control center though which is a bit irritating. After that I noticed the screen would flicker from time to time while watching netflix. It wasn't a bad flicker... it was always really quick (less than a second). It only happened once about every 10-20 minutes. I read that people had success fixing that issue by updating their motherboards bios. (not really sure how that would fix it, but I did it anyway.) It didn't fix it. This is the third bios that I updated. Each of them were on different boards. The other two were successful.

I think you're right about it being a problem with MSI's latest revision if this bios. People have been saying that they have went downhill.

[Gero50]

In all honesty though this computer was never running at 100%. I was having major issues with my GTX 480. The drivers kept crashing. After doing a ton of research with that It seems to be nvidia's fault with their latest batch of drivers. I switched over to a Radeon HD 7750, and that fixed the crashing issue. I can't open catalyst control center though which is a bit irritating. After that I noticed the screen would flicker from time to time while watching netflix. It wasn't a bad flicker... it was always really quick (less than a second). It only happened once about every 10-20 minutes. I read that people had success fixing that issue by updating their motherboards bios. (not really sure how that would fix it, but I did it anyway.) It didn't fix it. This is the third bios that I updated. Each of them were on different boards. The other two were successful.

I think you're right about it being a problem with MSI's latest revision if this bios. People have been saying that they have went downhill.

Glad I could help. .

When it comes to the graphics card being fixed by updating the bios. The reason it was fixed is because the system bios controls the communication between your graphic card, and other devices. Once the new one was installed it came with better instructions on how to deliver the data. Thats the way I like to explain it without sounding to techyish.

[† ballard]

Do you think reinstalling windows would fix it so that I could use hardware monitoring software again, or should I switch back to the asus board I just got back from repairs if I can't find any solutions?

[Gero50]

Do you think reinstalling windows would fix it so that I could use hardware monitoring software again, or should I switch back to the asus board I just got back from repairs if I can't find any solutions?

Well as I said I am banking on that it sounds like a Windows issue. Like something in your registry is not communicating right to your bios. In particular the portions for those apps.

You could go, and remove all the entry's in the registry without doing a clean install, but if you got access to s disk I'd just reinstall Windows, and if that dose not work then switch out your MOBO.

[† ballard]

I'll mess around with the registry for awhile to see if I can take care of it from there first. If I need to I could use the hard drive from a broken laptop that I have to test a reinstall of windows to see if that fixes it. Thanks for the help. I'll post back here if I have any further issues.

[Mujklob]

I haven't encountered a problem like this before, but, it's generally best to set your BIOS defaults prior to flashing. I would back everything up, then unplug and pull the battery, clear CMOS, plug back in, set BIOS defaults, reflash the BIOS. If that doesn't work, try another hard drive.

[shadowtheman]

DO NOT MESS WITH YOUR REGISTRY.......!!!!!

Your regristry will not have any thing to do with your bios, only logged info will be there. The registry is only the mapped installed data for windows use. If you change values there you could really screw up how windows runs, even fry your system. I've seen it happen.

Instead check to see if your mother board has a Factory Reset. Some have them some don't. The factory reset will bring your bios back to factory values. If you do not have one, then I suggest you go to the manufactures web site to get a reinstall for your bios that should reset it for you.

I can imagine when you attempted to install the update it went partially corrupt, stopping your mother board from properly logging safety data like your temp and so on. Many mother boards have them these days for safety reasons. It helps keep your system safe against system meltdown(over heating) and power surges.

Be careful I have seen people ruin there mother board by messing with this function in order to do things to there system. Instead there mother board shuts down after so many seconds because it "thinks" there is a system hazard making it vary hard to fix.

TREAD CAREFULLY

[ZeroPenguins]

It's very unlikely that it has something to do with your registry, just like the guy above mention. My guess it probably has something to do with the drivers, if you were able to get it to work again after reinstalling the OS. They usually don't advise you to update the BIOS unless you really need to, if it's working the way you want it to you have no need to update it, unless you need it for new features that they might implement. If you have issues just reflash it the older BIOS using @BIOS (well that's what I use) and problem solved =)

[Gero50]

It's very unlikely that it has something to do with your registry, just like the guy above mention. My guess it probably has something to do with the drivers, if you were able to get it to work again after reinstalling the OS. They usually don't advise you to update the BIOS unless you really need to, if it's working the way you want it to you have no need to update it, unless you need it for new features that they might implement. If you have issues just reflash it the older BIOS using @BIOS (well that's what I use) and problem solved =)

The main reason I thought it could be something in his registry is as he stated everything including all the functions of his Mother Board work as normal. The programs just aren't registering with the hardware which could relate to driver as well. Maybe it was a little bit of both.

[† ballard]

One of the major reasons I updated my bios was because I plan on buying an FX processor. I had the original 17.1 bios, so I updated to 17.9 in order for it to work. I also had a small issue with netflix flickering and a lot of threads that I read said that updating their bios fixed the flickering problem. I normally don't like to touch the bios because it can screw up everything. MSI suggests against downgrading to an older revision otherwise I would go back. How safe would you say it is to flash the bios with the same version in an attempt to fix it (17.9 to 17.9)? I don't want to mess up my motherboard anymore than it already is. As far as the registry goes I cleaned it up a little and my computer starts up faster than it did.

[Gero50]

One of the major reasons I updated my bios was because I plan on buying an FX processor. I had the original 17.1 bios, so I updated to 17.9 in order for it to work. I also had a small issue with netflix flickering and a lot of threads that I read said that updating their bios fixed the flickering problem. I normally don't like to touch the bios because it can screw up everything. MSI suggests against downgrading to an older revision otherwise I would go back. How safe would you say it is to flash the bios with the same version in an attempt to fix it (17.9 to 17.9)? I don't want to mess up my motherboard anymore than it already is. As far as the registry goes I cleaned it up a little and my computer starts up faster than it did.

Flashing the same bios would not necessarily fix the issue if it is in fact a issue, or bug with the latest version. If there was a error while flashing however that you suspect those errors would be fixed upon completion of the new flash. I would also do what Dark Angel mentioned, and look for the newest drivers on MSI's website.

[Neko-fish]

Hi ... if you have a copy of your old Bios ...reflash back to the old ones ...I had a issue similar to this years ago ..but it was to do with how the O/I of the motherboard would read and say if new hardware ...eg: external drives ..and if they were compatible with it ....

if you don't want to do that .... find another monitoring program ...like "core temp" ...I use that one ..it great and its a stand alone ...no install .....plus it has a few nice add-on features and still stays as a stand alone!

and if you do not have to... never update(flash) your Bios until its absolutely necessary ....that goes for extrenal hard ware too .... most often they mess things up rather than fix a problem...(eg: on hard drives they can actually ADD DRM code on a drive that at first did not...)

[† ballard]

Core temp works fine. It says my processor is at 19c. I could get my previous bios version at MSI's website.

[Gero50]

Core temp works fine. It says my processor is at 19c. I could get my previous bios version at MSI's website.

If you decide to flash the old one back use the bootable flash drive not the Windows up, and it should work better.

[ZeroPenguins]

One of the major reasons I updated my bios was because I plan on buying an FX processor. I had the original 17.1 bios, so I updated to 17.9 in order for it to work. I also had a small issue with netflix flickering and a lot of threads that I read said that updating their bios fixed the flickering problem. I normally don't like to touch the bios because it can screw up everything. MSI suggests against downgrading to an older revision otherwise I would go back. How safe would you say it is to flash the bios with the same version in an attempt to fix it (17.9 to 17.9)? I don't want to mess up my motherboard anymore than it already is. As far as the registry goes I cleaned it up a little and my computer starts up faster than it did.

I get flickering as well, happens on all flash content videos that require hardware acceleration. I really doubt it's the motherboard, it actually started after I updated flash player. Though I been using old drivers as well 12.1 while they have 12.4 now? CCC from AMD of course.

[† ballard]

I get flickering as well, happens on all flash content videos that require hardware acceleration. I really doubt it's the motherboard, it actually started after I updated flash player. Though I been using old drivers as well 12.1 while they have 12.4 now? CCC from AMD of course.

I think think the beta drivers are 12.4. I'm using 12.3 which is the most up to date drivers for my 7750... Maybe you could help me with something. I can't open ccc. I've tried reinstalling the drivers, but it still doesn't load. Do you know of any way I could fix this? It would be nice to be able to change settings.