jobonline20 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 1010101001..........how much do you get paid to do this stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boink666 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) 1010101010@DaeThat's true, I guess I was giving the answer to a state generator that would halt instead of a set of non-halting programs. As far as I know, this problem is not solved and has been proved uncomputable.However, a partial way to find the set of programs that would halt on a given input would require computing all possible ways of generating a distinguishable output from a given input and then all mechanisms to halt on the generator's output. This would also include all possible other actions the program could take without modifying the two above steps, and all ways to reorder or merge these three parts. So the partial answer would be the set of all perfect variable sized hash algorithms permuted with the set of all ways to distinguish a specific output in such order that a halt is logically guaranteed. Then this set would then be permuted with itself with the desired input into a new set that verifies both the hardcoded input and the secondary input. This last permutation would be repeated infinitely for the partial solution. Edited August 5, 2012 by boink666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dae314 Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 1010101011HA!!! I'm on the 1's again!@JobLook at my answer. My answer is the short version (Turing decidable/Turing recognizable). Now look at boink's answer. That's a very convoluted explanation of my answer ^-^. Computer scientists don't exactly get paid much (whatever the wage of a professor is nowa days), but that doesn't include whatever work they happen to do on the side (which could make them pretty wealthy).So now you might be able to see that there are some questions that people think CANNOT be computed by any computer or any mathematics. Finding more of these isn't really a focus of study for computer scientists, but it's part. What's usually a hotter topic of research is looking for more efficient ways to do things, and looking for proof that things CANNOT be done more efficiently. Thinking of these kinds of algorithms is what computer scientists do at the doctorate level.@BoinkAs I said above, you basically restated what I meant when I said not Turing decidable but Turing recognizable ^-^. No need to get too technical about it either. The set I derived my problem from is reducable to this set: {<M, w> | M is a Turing Machine and M accepts w} which is not Turing decidable. I don't wanna type out the proofs for any of these but just trust me that they are all proven undecidable. I actually had to go look up in a text book of mine a good undecidable set to base my problem on for illustration purposes xD. Proving this stuff would be going waaaaay too deep for a forum game thread though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobonline20 Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 1010101100............no wonder you are on the 'it's complicated' balloon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dae314 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 1010101101lol I guess you could count that as a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobonline20 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 1010101110..........may be you should stick to few sentences while talking to her, rather than going on about like reciting an essay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amitkumar101 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 1010101111 such a pain u guys dont have anything else to do.and he want to count till 1000 in binaries right so why the hell he start with 1 he should start with 0 and really this is such a pain that nobody notice that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dae314 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 1010110000Are you talking about yourself? Because DAMMIT I'M BACK TO PUTTING 0's BECAUSE OF YOU!!!@Job, I seem to be doing just fine courting her the way I am ^^. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobonline20 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 1010110001.........i'm sorry if you felt like 'i made fun of you' (can't find the right english word)all the very best in your courting adventure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dae314 Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 1010110010Back to zeroes... back to zeroes T_TYes, everything will turn out OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobonline20 Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 1010110011........i see it didn't turn out okay here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dae314 Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 1010110100Well it's not bad news yet. Not yet. No. Soon though I shall be reporting either extremely good news, extremely bad news, or neutral news... lets hope it's not neutral because that would make me frustrated . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobonline20 Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) 1010110101...........hope its not bad news either. Edited August 10, 2012 by jobonline20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dae314 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 1010110110Bad news wouldn't be too bad, but at least stuff would be figured out. I will not stand for neutral news... Then I still don't know wtf is up . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobonline20 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 1010110111............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dae314 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 1010111000Lets hope everything goes well and I don't need that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobonline20 Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 1010111001............all the very best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dae314 Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 1010111001Nervousness nervousness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobonline20 Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 1010111011...........why no counting?also, when you are nervous, put your hand in your pocket and squeeze your balls, got that advice from a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4sturCheef Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 1010111100.........How should this help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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