Difference between remastered and not remastered

[Dan Den]

Hello, I know this is going to sound a bit bliss but hey this is the first time I actually asked my self this, I could just search it on the Google but hey who's more understanding of anime Google or anime fans.

OK I just wanted to get your view on whats the difference between the remastered and not remastered version of an anime lets say the Dragon ball series.

And which is the better version between the two?

[J-Lord]

ooo let me see...hmmm... I watched the normal one growing up as a kid. And the diffrence I noticed with the remastered one was a clearer picture, more blood, and some of the voices had been re-done, for example Super Buu.

Thats all I can really think of without going back and comparing the two.

I personally Like the remastered better.

[Koby]

ooo let me see...hmmm... I watched the normal one growing up as a kid. And the diffrence I noticed with the remastered one was a clearer picture, more blood, and some of the voices had been re-done, for example Super Buu.

Thats all I can really think of without going back and comparing the two.

I personally Like the remastered better.

Um no. The voices were not different. The picture was no clearer. There was not more blood. The DBZ remaster sets were terribly done. Missing lines, cropped image, over contrasted etc..

If done right Remaster is usually better. All a remaster usually is... is cleaning up the image, fixing color issues, etc.

[Dan Den]

Um no. The voices were not different. The picture was no clearer. There was not more blood. The DBZ remaster sets were terribly done. Missing lines, cropped image, over contrasted etc..

If done right Remaster is usually better. All a remaster usually is... is cleaning up the image, fixing color issues, etc.

So which version of Dragon ball would you recommend?

[Koby]

So which version of Dragon ball would you recommend?

I'd currently recommend the Dragon Box releases for Dragon Ball Z.

DB and DBGT didn't really have as much issues with their remasters from what I've seen.

[† Mute point]

Um no. The voices were not different. The picture was no clearer. There was not more blood. The DBZ remaster sets were terribly done. Missing lines, cropped image, over contrasted etc..

If done right Remaster is usually better. All a remaster usually is... is cleaning up the image, fixing color issues, etc.

Actually Koby, some of the voices in the remastered version were different from the original Dub, and they actually showed blood, flowing blood, not just red spots on a face or clothing.

It should be noted that, the voices that changed were only in the early episodes. I don't know if a different company did the originals, and then Funimation took over and used their guys, or if Funimation just got new people... but whatever, the point is, Picollo, Vegeta, Gohan, and Goku had different voices in the original dub of the Saiyan Saga.

[Koby]

Actually Koby, some of the voices in the remastered version were different from the original Dub, and they actually showed blood, flowing blood, not just red spots on a face or clothing.

It should be noted that, the voices that changed were only in the early episodes. I don't know if a different company did the originals, and then Funimation took over and used their guys, or if Funimation just got new people... but whatever, the point is, Picollo, Vegeta, Gohan, and Goku had different voices in the original dub of the Saiyan Saga.

Maybe you saw a different version such as Ocean Groups release, but the original DBZ I saw on Toonami growing up as a kid back in 1998 was the same voices used in the Remastered sets I bought on dvd. The blood was unaltered from the original release I saw as well. I haven't ever seen the original Ocean Dub though so can't comment on it. I believe Ocean only ever did up to the Saiyan saga though. The first time FUNimation supposedly changed voices was on their release of Kai.

[† Mute point]

Maybe you saw a different version such as Ocean Groups release, but the original DBZ I saw on Toonami growing up as a kid back in 1998 was the exact same voices used in the Remastered sets I bought on dvd. The blood was unaltered from the original release I saw as well.

I watched it original on Toonami as well.

Listen to Vegeta's talking voice in this. That is the original dub voice for him that Toonami aired. I wish I could find a better example, but apparently no one liked the old dub enough to post it on youtube.

[Koby]

I watched it original on Toonami as well.

Listen to Vegeta's talking voice in this. That is the original dub voice for him that Toonami aired. I wish I could find a better example, but apparently no one liked the old dub enough to post it on youtube.

I have never heard him sound like that. o.O

[† Mute point]

Then you missed the very first run. Or somehow they showed the funimation dub in your area instead of whatever dub that one was.. Or you just don't remember because the new voice is better.

[Koby]

Then you missed the very first run. Or somehow they showed the funimation dub in your area instead of whatever dub that one was.. Or you just don't remember because the new voice is better.

Following the short-lived dub of Dragon Ball in 1995, Funimation Entertainment began production on an English-language release of Dragon Ball Z. They collaborated with Saban Entertainment to finance and distribute the series to television, sub-licensed home video distribution to Pioneer Entertainment (later known as Geneon Universal Entertainment), contracted Ocean Productions to dub the anime into English, and hired Shuki Levy to compose an alternate musical score. This dub of Dragon Ball Z was heavily edited for content, as well as length; reducing the first 67 episodes into 53. The series premiered in the U.S. on September 13, 1996 in first-run syndication, but also struggled to find a substantial audience during its run and was ultimately cancelled after two seasons.

On August 31, 1998, however, these cancelled dubbed episodes began airing on Cartoon Network's weekday-afternoon programming block, Toonami, where the series received much more popularity. With new success, Funimation continued production on the series by themselves, now with less editing due to fewer restrictions on cable programing. However, they could no longer afford the services of either the Ocean voice cast or Shuki Levy's music without Saban's financial assistance, resulting in the creation of their own in-house voice cast and a new musical score composed by Bruce Faulconer. Dragon Ball Z was now in full production in the U.S. and the new dub of the series aired on Cartoon Network from September 13, 1999 to April 7, 2003.

In 2004, Geneon's distribution rights to the first 53/67 episodes of Dragon Ball Z expired, allowing Funimation to re-dub them with their in-house voice cast and restore the removed content. These re-dubbed episodes aired on Cartoon Network during the summer of 2005.

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Apparently it's just been so long that I forgot / don't remember as according to that FUNimation wasn't able to redo the first 67 episodes until 2004, which means I obviously had to have seen the original dub.

I agree though the voice FUNimation chose is much better than that of the original Ocean Dub.

[† Mute point]

Maybe you saw a different version such as Ocean Groups release, but the original DBZ I saw on Toonami growing up as a kid back in 1998 was the same voices used in the Remastered sets I bought on dvd. The blood was unaltered from the original release I saw as well. I haven't ever seen the original Ocean Dub though so can't comment on it. I believe Ocean only ever did up to the Saiyan saga though. The first time FUNimation supposedly changed voices was on their release of Kai.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Z#Dragon_Ball_Z

Original dub up to the end of the second season was Pioneer/Ocean, With the voices we didn't like, and heavily edited content, such as Hell being renamed HFIL (Home for Infinite Losers). It was canceled in 1996, and then aired on Cartoon Network in the same format while Funimation produced the remaining episodes themselves, using their new cast of voices, and having fewer restrictions on content.

And then later Funimation fixed the earlier episodes.

[Malyssa Rahl]

I think that Ocean's Vegeta really did sound like a prison bitch.

[J-Lord]

Um no. The voices were not different. The picture was no clearer. There was not more blood. The DBZ remaster sets were terribly done. Missing lines, cropped image, over contrasted etc..

If done right Remaster is usually better. All a remaster usually is... is cleaning up the image, fixing color issues, etc.

Yeah sorry koby I was just trying to remember off the top of my head what i thought was diffrent.. I know a few of the voice lines where re-done but you seem to know your stuff pretty well. If i could find some refrences id show you what i mean.

[Koby]

Yeah sorry koby I was just trying to remember off the top of my head what i thought was diffrent.. I know a few of the voice lines where re-done but you seem to know your stuff pretty well. If i could find some refrences id show you what i mean.

I was proven wrong about the voices as FUNimation couldn't redo them till 2004 due to legal reasons and thus the Remastered set was the first to have the voices of the the rest of the series in the first couple seasons.

[NewtypeS3]

The amusing thing is that the Ocean Dub only ended in America. Canada and the UK still got the Ocean dub, where voice actors got swapped out so often that Goku had another two or three voice actors.

The big thing about "remastering" though is that the work in question is often digitally polished up, mainly for a higher definition release than what the work was originally intended for. Sometimes, though, other changes will be made. These changes can be relatively minor, like changing the music or replacing sound effects with ones that aren't as "goofy" or perhaps are more fitting for the scene in general. If you have someone like George Lucas at the helm, you can easily wind up with an entirely different product.

And it's not just in America where that happens. From the sound of things, Gundam Seed is being almost completely re-worked for a high-definition version. New animation, new music and a lack of clip episodes are the things being touted...

...but time only will tell if it actually is going to be applied, considering the director's track record with budgeting.