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By Dr. Caviar
Hello everyone! My name is Dr. Caviar, and I was referred here while on the search for the elusive Dragon Ball blue water dub. I grew up with the American dub of Dragon Ball Z as a kid and have since seen various editions of all DB media. Just to be sure, is there a complete set of BW DB? Also, I am interested in complete Big Green and Malaysian DB content, and any other fascinating DB things. I will be exploring this site as well to see what everyone is talking about. Thanks!!
So I'm sure most of you have seen Kirbopher's post that he made late Saturday night regarding Ocean Kai. If not, here's what he said:
Believe it or not, all hope is not lost here. We all have to band together and get Teletoon to see that we want this show on the airwaves.
Go to this link, https://www.teletoon.com/en/info/contact
Go to "I want to make a suggestion" and request "Dragon Ball Kai produced by Ocean Studios."
You can be elaborate or keep it short and sweet. Just get the message across. If enough of us email them, they may consider it.
Thank you for your time.
I originally posted this as a long. branching status with each sentence in its own comments. This post has been edited and expanded from its original text.
I have often compared Dragon Ball Z to Star Wars in terms of story, cultural significance, and importance to each respective genre. When you look at the big picture of both franchises, there are a number of striking similarities. Today I'm going to talk about one big difference between the franchises And though I'm going to focus on what might seem like a small aspect, it will have major ramifications.
I think Kanzenshuu and the bigwig rare Dragon Ball collectors/archivists (you know who I'm talking about) could learn a thing or two from the Star Wars fanbase.
I see more transparency and willingness to share content over at originaltrilogy.com than at Kanzenshuu, and that's partially because of Kanzenshuu's strict no-piracy policy. Even the guys restoring the original trilogy from rare 35mm prints have been completely cooperative with the community about their efforts, and while they have been working on it for several years now, the forumgoers are patiently awaiting the final product because they know it takes time and effort. They also have come to terms with the reality that Lucasfilm will never truly embrace the non-special edition ever again, and so they have taken the matter into their own hands.
The hardcore Dragon Ball fans who have gathered tapes, recordings, and other such paraphernalia have stored all those items away in a hole somewhere never to see the light of day ever again. They're too afraid of big, bad Toei to share any of this goldmine with the true fans. Instead we have waited for either Toei or Funimation to do anything with the property, but in the end we all get the long, hard shaft because too many fans either don't know or don't care about the true version of the show that aired from 1986 to 1997. There are times when I feel like we're all part of some clandestine, underground movement to restore Dragon Ball to its former glory (re: quality). But nobody who wants the true version actually has any resources that could accomplish this and the people who DO have them are sitting on their asses feeling good about themselves. These people need to wake up and smell the roses. They need to realize that they have the power to make the dreams of all the hardcore fans come true.
I think a big hurdle for these people is the threat of piracy. Well let me copy and paste the time-honored code of Fan-Edits and Preservations, which is what would categorize a project of this flavor:
-Flavor text taken from an entry on originaltrilogy.com
Sadly because we are a part of the anime community on the Internet, it is assumed that we only support any effort that forgoes payment. However, since this is about Dragon Ball, let me posit this. Isn't Dragon Ball, in its various forms, a staple in most anime fans' collection? Don't you think there's a good chance that any given Dragon Ball fan owns at least the Orange Bricks, one of the best selling anime box sets of all time? These fans have paid their dues (in more ways than one) and easily qualify to possess any fan-edits or preservations.
The one thing keeping together the Star Wars preservation community is the clause that we've all heard Team Four Star say at the end of their legal disclaimers in every episode of their parody series: "Please support the official release". Lucasfilm, to my knowledge, has never cracked down on originaltrilogy.com because of this code. Granted, none of the actual links to these projects are posted publicly on the site, which bypasses the piracy issue entirely. I wish Kanzenshuu had that same kind of policy. All the hardcore fans on the Internet congregate there and have fervently discussed the shortcomings of every home video release of the franchise. But if the forum were to adopt a filesharing policy like the one that originaltrilogy.com has, far fewer people would be clamoring for the "final form" of Dragon Ball, so to speak, and it would open up discussion of the franchise even... further... beyond!
But where would we host all this delicious content? Why, the same place you can find Star Wars files dating back a decade ago: A certain private torrent tracker with the same name as an organ of the human body (you either know what I'm talking about or don't here, sorry). It's a place, nay a haven for fans of long-lost material and fan projects, and one of the stipulations for uploading content is that it not be commercially available, which is crucial to its ecosystem. I'm surprised that at least more of the international fans have not found this website and already set up shop there. It is home to swaths of old TV recordings, semi-professional edits and restorations to movies, and countless color corrections. And all three of these are elements that the perfect Dragon Ball release require to hold up to fan scrutiny.
I urge Kanzenshuu to support fan-edited and fan-preserved content that is distributed fairly amongst fellow supporters of the official release. As long as the disclaimer is properly displayed to the prospective downloader, there is nothing wrong or illegal with sharing content of this nature. Allowing such content to be discussed and even distributed privately would foster a sort of community-wide goal to achieve the perfect version of everybody's favorite anime series.
Star Wars fans have experienced such a community for nearly two decades since the release of the much-derided Special Edition in 1997. In almost the same amount of time, Dragon Ball fans have sat back and watched as the powers that be slowly dismantled the original version of the iconic series that Fuji TV aired once upon a time.
Don't you think it's high time we take our show back?
DISCLAIMER: I have nothing against Kanzenshuu, VegettoEX, or anybody I "mentioned" personally. I am a member of kanzenshuu.com, originaltrilogy.com, and the website I mentioned towards the end which I choose not to disclose here out of respect for privacy. I am also aware that a few of those rare collectors have worked with Toei personally about said rare material, but those talks have achieved very little. I do not support or endorse harassment of any parties mentioned.