Summa Emovere (Summary Emotions).

[la5er]

Im going to start this post off with a phrase that has echoed through my mind for countless years to when I read it: “We as humans are a unique breed as we can use our entire being to inflict pain or healing onto other beings”. – Mark Twain.

That is we have an inherent prejudice over everything in life through our emotions and it is our very emotions that attempt to defy logical reasoning or morph it into making us feel all warm and fuzzy inside even in the most destitute of times. We as humans also like to quantify the qualitative aspects of life. This is done through the principles of statistical analysis where dummy variables are assigned to that which otherwise doesn’t have a rank assigned to it.

However this property has one spectrum that drives it. Namely the Love-hate spectrum for happiness and despair can be derived from its precursory inputs and they can also be dependent on what end of the spectrum they have an affinity for. So with the aforementioned paragraph you have Love and hate with values of 1 and -1 respectively, polar opposites of each other if you will. Now, you can also surmise the will of the human mind’s attractiveness towards that with which it feels emotionally at ease.

A good description of the emotional spectrum can also be put into a Cartesian coordinate context as well with the (0, 1) being Love, (0, -1) being hate, (1,0) being the affinity towards love, and (-1, 0) being the affinity towards hate. This plane can be used to help us better understand where we sit on life’s emotional plane. As an example lets take the emotion of fear. Fear can carry with it an affinity towards love or an affinity towards hate. Fear is for the most part a human emotion that can derive itself from the unknown. In this case a thought of “If I do this, what will happen?” The unknown factor can either repel you from it in this case hate thus having an affinity towards love and vise-a-versa. Namely it can drive you to learn or improve yourself in some way.

The example of fear in this case leads us to another topic of being emotionally neutral in the case of human relationships of any degree. For where there is friendship, marriage, jealousy, envy, parental, etc… there is a 3rd personality involved that is the “bond” that ties the two people together. This no matter how you look at it can be a bond of love or a bond of hate. Now when maturity is reached the circle of emotions in the case of our emotional plane comes into view more and more as we live and gain wisdom. We as humans just by self-virtues cannot obtain full maturity nor can we obtain full maturity with another person. As life is a constant battle for improvement across all facets of it.

If we at all think to ourselves “Yeah, I am fully mature because of x, y, z, etc….” we attempt to scar over that hole of which we fear about ourselves: the unknown.

Do you know as a parent, know at this exact moment what it would be like to hand your child over in marriage? Do you as a parent to be know what it is like to actually hold the life that your emotions willed into existence? Do you know how it will feel to obtain your BS/MS/PHD at that university you are currently attending?

Do you who are single know what it feels like to be married to someone? Do you who lost a loved one know what it is like to live in your present-self with that person still in your life? Do you who live in a peaceful nation know what it is like to live in a nation ripe with war outside your doorstep?

If, you answered yes to any of these questions. You have just attempted to use your emotions to scar over the hole in your life. We as humans are damaged right from the start and attempt to use others to fill voids that we cannot fill even if we surround ourselves with thousands of social ties as there is always something that is unknown to us. In order to reach full maturity it is IMPERATIVE that we experience all points in the circle I previously laid out for you.

With relationships of any degree maturation only comes when the bond that ties the two together be it for hateful reasons or loving reasons bisects the point (0,0) AND the distance between person A and (0,0); and person B and (0,0) are equal. This cannot be and will never be as there is always even an emotional nano-meter of a difference. It is the attempt to fulfill this requirement that helps us learn about our current state to improve towards a higher state. The state of true-love: acting upon our fears by having the courage to face them and not run from them.

Running from your fears only creates more hardship for yourself and the entity that created that fear in the first place. Sugar coating it with an “its for the best” attitude don’t solve the issue. It just stagnates it and has it hover in one place never truly coming to rest.

This brings me to my next topic of discussion. Is there such a thing as a “choice” do we really have the power to make a choice? No, because our entire being was brought up through 4 forces of physics: Electromagnetic, strong, weak, and gravitational. Was it your choice to wake up this morning? Was it your choice that the Earth came into existence? Was it your choice to say “I DO” at the altar? Was it your choice to even breathe the breath before last?

Again, I will reiterate that if you said yes to any of the following you have just placed that with which you think you know into the unknown and have just used fear in a unique way.

The earth came into existence because there were gravitational forces acting upon the particulate of matter in the area of space the earth formed in.

You decided to wake up this morning because a chemical reaction within your brain was able to synthesis enough adenosine to trigger a wakeup response or you had a chemical reaction before you went to sleep to turn on your alarm because you chemically want to journey out into the world to work of which the society has implanted in your head to fool you into wanting money of which was brought up as a monetary system to sugar-coat forced labor of which……

You said “I DO” at the altar because a chemical reaction with in your brain drove you to think: “I LOVE THIS PERSON”.

Your last breath you had was a chemical reaction from remnant atomic particles coming together through half-life transformation from a higher element that acquired a unique charge to form an amino-acid, protein, or sugar molecule. All of which were formed from other particulate matter from animals and plants. From which plants require photosynthesis from fusion(gravitational, and chemical) within the sun that form processes Hydrogen to from Helium, Helium to from Lithium, Lithium to form… Of which then when the star is massive enough to form a supernova of which processes all elements to Uranium of which radioactively decays back down to the elements to form more amino acids, proteins, sugars. These came together to form life of which breathes. GO TO THE FIRST CHARACTER IN THIS PARAGRAPH.

Everything is chemical and gravitational reaction of which derived themself from quarks and leptons in the electrons, protons, and neutrons that make up our very physical being. Depending on how the quarks and leptons fuse gives them their chemical property(+ for protons, -for electrons, and neutral for neutrons) Neutrons are interesting as they form when enough gravitational pressures have been applied to fuse electrons and protons together.

The weak(intra-molecular) and strong(inter-molecular) forces also act upon us from mono/dipole molecular reactions of isotopes, etc….. of which are then bound by gravity formed by the collection of mass from the bonding of protons, electrons, and neutrons.

How did all this “knowledge” come into being? Because we as humans desire through our emotions knowledge of the unknown and have faith that all this is truth. We use faith to affirm that with which we think is true from what we know of which is derived from the unknown. With the recent discoveries that we were able to accelerate a particle of light beyond the constant of C from Einsteins theory of relativity throws all we have known about our emotional and physical world back into the blender to rethink our current state to then rise to another state of understanding.

Then again, we black-hole into a thought that we actually made that particle of light go faster than C. After all we measure speed in the context of a unit of distance over a unit of time. Time itself from the intercontinental railway nuclear clock experiment proved that as speed increases time itself starts to pass by slower. Thus as we approach the speed of light, time goes by slower and slower. Look at the previous paragraph and you will see how cyclical our understanding of the universe has really become.

I also leave you with a couple other thoughts and a statement before I close this post out.

Thoughts: Is true-love a peaceful resting place for the mutual and cyclical exploitation of the two entities working on each other through governance of the forces of phsyics? Namely does a spouse exploit the weaknesses of his/her spouse so to teach him/her where to improve(give “life”) and vise-a-versa? Is it not the exploitation of our current sun to bring life to the future state of our future-present area of space? Why are we powerless to stop our emotions from creating other emotions?

Statements: This is a result of reading through most of the Summa Theologea by St. Thomas Aquinas my confirmation representative as I was confirmed into the Roman Catholic Church of 2010.

[Alegend1994]

This is a really in depth topic and I'm not completely sure of it's meaning. Luckily I believe that I know enough about Physics that I could follow the matter interactions and structures of matter without a problem. Unluckily my weakness is advanced English Language, so I found it kind of hard in some areas to completely understand the concept being portrayed.

I have to admit though while reading through this I found that I was disagreeing with your comparison of emotions and the ideas of choice into a mathematical point of view, but that was probably because I feared that you were in fact right since the comparisons did fit.

But this summary opened my eyes to a couple of situations and thoughts in life that had been a bit confusing for me and has helped me understand a little better about the unknown although a few things you discussed I still can't completely accept just yet, I probably have this view from a lack of knowledge in those areas and cannot base my believes on what this summary has said.

So thanks for this thread =).

[† Emotional Outlet]

Whew. You covered a lot of ground in this post. Especially for topics that require quite a bit of thought, I'm not entirely sure it was the best approach, but I understand the desire to maintain flow and not wanting to cut off in the middle of a thought. I have a tendency to misunderstand things, so if I start wandering into a tangent...

We as humans also like to quantify the qualitative aspects of life. This is done through the principles of statistical analysis where dummy variables are assigned to that which otherwise doesn’t have a rank assigned to it.

I definitely agree with this. People like numbers, quantities. They want to hear exactly how much money they have and not "You have a lot" or "You don't have enough". How much is not enough? Not enough for what? How much is a lot? Is a lot enough that I can quit my job, or is a lot enough that I can afford to take three months off? But even numbers can be relative. $100k may be substantial to a lot people, but to others it doesn't even begin to cover their numerous expenses, essential or not.

The same line of questioning seems to be applied to emotions and other non-quantitative aspects as well. If you hate someone, how much do you hate them? How scary is that really to you? On a scale of one to ten, how much pain are you in?

Especially in the case of "on a scale of one to ten", attempts to quantify things like pain, love, and hate, I think, are often lost on people. What a six is to you may be a ten to me. It seems like an attempt to make things easier to understand, easier to convey to other people, but despite the ineffectiveness of a scale, people still use it. On whose standards do we judge emotions? Pain? Horror?

If we at all think to ourselves “Yeah, I am fully mature because of x, y, z, etc….” we attempt to scar over that hole of which we fear about ourselves: the unknown.

I think this is similar to the above. On whose standards do we determine maturity? I don't know if it's necessarily an attempt to bridge gaps over the unknown so much as an attempt to prove something to oneself and others, but it's an interesting thought.

Do you know as a parent, know at this exact moment what it would be like to hand your child over in marriage? Do you as a parent to be know what it is like to actually hold the life that your emotions willed into existence? Do you know how it will feel to obtain your BS/MS/PHD at that university you are currently attending?

Do you who are single know what it feels like to be married to someone? Do you who lost a loved one know what it is like to live in your present-self with that person still in your life? Do you who live in a peaceful nation know what it is like to live in a nation ripe with war outside your doorstep?

These, I think, are better examples of trying to hide the gaps, trying to avoid contact with the unknown. "Of course I can guess what it's like to be a parent--I know lots of parents!" "Of course I can imagine what it's like to be married--I've had serious relationships before!" And, of course, the way one acts in the situation versus the way they imagined it happening are not always congruent.

Some of it seems to be an effort to elevate oneself over people they think are lesser or not as good as them. "If that were me, I wouldn't have let him touch me. I'd beat him to a pulp." "If that were me, I woulda taken that knife from him and turned it back on him!" It's like a way of comforting yourself--you're not as weak or scared as so-and-so! You're better than that. You would have acted way better than them.

I remember reading Kite Runner in high school and we were discussing the scene wherein the narrator witnesses his friend being raped and assaulted by several people larger than him. One of the girls there was annoyed with him, saying that he should have stood up for his friend, should have gotten help, should have done something. She said if she were him, she wouldn't have just pissed his pants like he did and ran away.

No one wants to imagine themselves being on the losing end of a situation, and when you're feeling safe and everything is okay, answering the above quoted questions will probably differ radically than if you asked the same person the same questions after they've had a particularly rough day. They may say, "Sure, I'd be okay with giving away my son in marriage", and then a week later, fear the idea of having an empty nest, of losing their little baby.

I really don't have much to say in the paragraphs regarding choice. The argument of free will is a large enough debate as it is, haha. It might be a bit too sizable for a single thread, and I think there might a thread in the Mako Reactor that covers just that.

As far as being powerless to stop emotions, it seems to me largely due to the fact that most people are not capable of controlling the chemical reactions and electrical impulses occurring in their minds. I remember reading somewhere that emotions can be like addictions to people--becoming addicted to being miserable because it's comfortable, because it feels right, because you think that's the only place you belong. Even if you may intellectually understand that what you may feel is irrational--"not EVERYONE can hate me", "there's no way I'm really the WORST person in the world"--you still feel with every ounce of your being that those things are indeed true, despite it being contradictory to what you understand otherwise.

I hope I didn't too radically misunderstand everything that was said, haha. They definitely are interesting things to consider and discuss.