The Over-clockers corner

[la5er]

Memory: 9-9-9 timings seem to be the sweet-spot now

CPU:when running prime95 see if it gets to 60 if its an AMD, 50 if its an Intel. If it does, lower the clocks and/or clean out your case and/or get a non-stock cooler

GPU:When running furmark make sure the temp of the card doesnt exceed 85 for all brands. 100 seems to be the popping point

NOTE:Using Prime95 and Furmark in conjunction with each other for a time you are comfortable with should test just about every buss in your computer. However furmark doesnt test the full bank of memory of your graphics card. To do so, find a Farbrausch(link below) demo and run that for its full duration.

(Graphics Card Test)Furmark:

http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/

(Graphics Card Sensor Monitor)GPU-Z:

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

(Overall Computer Stats)CPU-Z:

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

(CPU Sensor Monitor)CPU-Thermometer:

http://www.softsea.com/review/CPU-Thermometer.html

(Memory Tester)Memtest 86+:

http://www.memtest.org/

NOTE: This requires a startup disk being made and 6 hours of time where you are not going to use your computer.

(Farbrausch demos):

http://www.farb-rausch.de/

NOTE: This processes terabytes to gigabytes of data depending on the demo you get. Magellan seems to be the most taxing of all of them. Debris is also a good one. My GFX cards memory bank got to 95% and 80% respectively while testing the GFX memory controller to around 75% for both.

CARD: 550 Ti 1GB V-Ram

NOTE: NEVER EVER EVER over-clock a chip of any kind to 25% of its factory setting. It is a good rule of thumb not never go beyond 15% infact. Exercise caution and consider the 15-25% range the "orange" zone. It can be done, but not advisable.

Any further questions?

If not, have fun tweaking your overclock dials and with the aforementioned tools!

[ZeroPenguins]

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NOTE: NEVER EVER EVER over-clock a chip of any kind to 25% of its factory setting. It is a good rule of thumb not never go beyond 15% infact. Exercise caution and consider the 15-25% range the "orange" zone. It can be done, but not advisable.

Are you sure? 25% is quite less and 15% is even lesser. Put it this way what you are saying that if you got an Intel i7 920 like I do you can only overclock it from 2.66GHz to 3.325GHz? WTF that is a low overclock. They can be pushed to 4.0GHz easily assuming you got good temps.

CPU:when running prime95 see if it gets to 60 if its an AMD, 50 if its an Intel. If it does, lower the clocks and/or clean out your case and/or get a non-stock cooler

50C for Intel? Now that's low, Intel i7 on stock cooler goes over 90C on hot days over 30C room temperature. Which is why you should get an aftermarket heatsink, but with a decent one you can't keep it under 65C under load with days over 30C.

[la5er]

I might be a whole "what case are you using" type deal then. Because, I have never had any proc of mine get above 60 even in the heat of the summer. Besides my graphics card anyway. Its probably cause I am also self-conscious to turn up my fan speeds when I put my stuff under heavy load.

The whole 25% is good enough deal is because if you go any higher you risk damaging the electron channels. That used to not be the case with 90nm as staple. But now with 45nm and even smaller you dont have much room for error anymore. Its similar to how an SSD wears out over time but at a much slower rate. Albeit, the avg life of a proc "in the computer" is about 2-3 years tops before an upgrade.

The way of an over-zealous comp-sci major I suppose.

[ZeroPenguins]

The problem with my room is that it's small and no aircon so in summer it can get well over 35C most days. I suppose you might be correct on about the case thing, I'm using a mid-tower. But it does have decent airflow. But in the end how much the person wants to overclock is their own personal business, they brought the CPU so it's rightfully theirs to overclock as much as they want.

[→Speed←]

I believe la5er meant to keep the overclock under 25% just as a warning.. No matter what anyone tells you, when you overclock the parts, life is going to be lessened. I am very disappointed in how little graphic cards can be OCed.. Although, most of the newer CPU's and some of the "older" ones can be overclocked more than any other part! That being said the keyword is "can".. If you overclock it will #1 Void your warranty(which means if it fails its your problem ) and #2 Draw more power to the part which is what causes its life to lessen. I have honestly OCed my i2600k from 3.4 to 4.8 before but only with multipliers(I still lack some knowledge of voltage overclocking) and a Corsair H100 water cooler. About the GPU-Z... That program doesn't recognize my graphic card and never really has(with my other computers card or the ones which were/are Saphire ATI 2600, XFX ATI 5780, and now an ATI 6970) Also about the temps, Intel stats 95C being the max allowable temperature(anything over 75c is honestly very bad though unless its max load temps although I wouldn't know since I've never had a CPU get to even 70c before ever since Pentium 4's went into the ancient tech category)

[la5er]

AOD: overclock to your hearts content if you want. When I was chillin with some EE majors they put stuff through stress tests for the local micro-chip mfgrs and they pushed some whacky numbers. But the statistics they came up with(ms and phd level research) was that 15-25 is a precarious spot to put any chip. I was glad speed was able to point out to you the meaning of what I was saying.

I am a computer enthusiast at heart and for some goofy reason the "relationship" I have is similar to the Nirvash/Renton/Eureka complex. Theyre kinda like people to me in a way and even more so as AI improves.

If you really want to be daring and dastardly, take a cpu that you will most likely never use again. Fashion a tinfoil bowl and use it to fry an egg on. The cooking of the egg oddly enough absorbs ALOT of latent heat. You have to be quick about it though or youll hear a pop similar to that of a popcorn kernel when the cpu finally computes its last binary-breath *tears up*. I remember a P2 was able to fry up 6 eggs before it went pop. We only pushed one of them to that limit otherwise we were careful as they did cost a pretty penny back when they were bleeding edge.

Happy over-clocking but remember, if you dont cool your chips off well enough. Theyll slap you back with nasty shutdowns/error-screens.

Speed: submit the problems on their forums they might be able to help you out or you could help them out with some programming know-how as well.

[ZeroPenguins]

AOD: overclock to your hearts content if you want. When I was chillin with some EE majors they put stuff through stress tests for the local micro-chip mfgrs and they pushed some whacky numbers. But the statistics they came up with(ms and phd level research) was that 15-25 is a precarious spot to put any chip. I was glad speed was able to point out to you the meaning of what I was saying.

I am a computer enthusiast at heart and for some goofy reason the "relationship" I have is similar to the Nirvash/Renton/Eureka complex. Theyre kinda like people to me in a way and even more so as AI improves.

If you really want to be daring and dastardly, take a cpu that you will most likely never use again. Fashion a tinfoil bowl and use it to fry an egg on. The cooking of the egg oddly enough absorbs ALOT of latent heat. You have to be quick about it though or youll hear a pop similar to that of a popcorn kernel when the cpu finally computes its last binary-breath *tears up*. I remember a P2 was able to fry up 6 eggs before it went pop. We only pushed one of them to that limit otherwise we were careful as they did cost a pretty penny back when they were bleeding edge.

Happy over-clocking but remember, if you dont cool your chips off well enough. Theyll slap you back with nasty shutdowns/error-screens.

Speed: submit the problems on their forums they might be able to help you out or you could help them out with some programming know-how as well.

Lol I thought that water has the more latent heat than eggs, but I suppose boiling water would be quite boring. Well I suppose I have my one in the 25% range due to the fact my RAM is too slow for higher bandwidth. Do you recommend overclocking RAM? I mean I can do it but I know it won't be good for it, could cause some faults.

[→Speed←]

Lol I thought that water has the more latent heat than eggs, but I suppose boiling water would be quite boring. Well I suppose I have my one in the 25% range due to the fact my RAM is too slow for higher bandwidth. Do you recommend overclocking RAM? I mean I can do it but I know it won't be good for it, could cause some faults.

I do not recommend it.. I have 16gb of ddr3 1866Mhz of memory and it always defaults to 1600 Mhz.. Whenever I put it back to 1866 I never noticed any change and a few times I put it to 2133Mhz and now it won't even let me put it to the stated speed of 1866Mhz.. When overclocking, if your PC doesn't accept the overclock and restarts twice to reset it to factory settings it is doing more damage than you notice.. =\

About the egg thing, I didnt know that was possible Lol.

[ZeroPenguins]

I do not recommend it.. I have 16gb of ddr3 1866Mhz of memory and it always defaults to 1600 Mhz.. Whenever I put it back to 1866 I never noticed any change and a few times I put it to 2133Mhz and now it won't even let me put it to the stated speed of 1866Mhz.. When overclocking' date=' if your PC doesn't accept the overclock and restarts twice to reset it to factory settings it is doing more damage than you notice.. =\

About the egg thing, I didnt know that was possible Lol.[/quote']

Lol fair enough, gonna try it one day when I got plenty of time. But I might not have to when I buy new RAM. I know that it takes a lot of memory test to be sure it is stable.