brite823 Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 goku would so kick supermans butt... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAMazza Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 dude goku died e came back like all the time in the animesuperman was strugling against batman (no offense, i prefer batman and superman sucks)come on, let frieza deciede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekknie Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 goku he levels out every thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shunsuke Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 If he has no weakness it doesn't mean he's more powerful then Goku.Not really because unlike Goku Superman can really only do punches and kicks while Goku can do moves like the Spirt Bomb and punches and kicks aren't going kill Goku as fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeohosh Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Superman in all powerful but would never cross the line, the question is wold Goku cross the linne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonnie Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Goku could own his ass any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifesto Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Not really because unlike Goku Superman can really only do punches and kicks while Goku can do moves like the Spirt Bomb and punches and kicks aren't going kill Goku as fast.You didn't understand what I said... what I meant is that if Superman has NO weakness in the DB world it DOESN'T mean HE is more powerful the GOKU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yung90 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I mean come on, someone really asked this... Goku would completely demolish Superman, whos to say that kryptnite is hes only weakness maybe he just never had his ass beat or a super kamahamaha to the face. Man I'm sorry I fuckin hate superman... pussy and batman has everyone's weakness even yours XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero D. Ace Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 a vastly important thing i forgot to mention -Goku OVERCAME the weakness of his tail. Superman just kept fainting whenever he was near it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifesto Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 a vastly important thing i forgot to mention -Goku OVERCAME the weakness of his tail. Superman just kept fainting whenever he was near it.Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krogothwolf Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 The problem with a Superman vs Anybody thread is, Superman's powers have been modified at the discretion of the writer. Weakened and Strengthen to make the story interesting, and even then Superman holds back against most foes so he doesn't kill them. An actual full powered Post-Crisis would give Goku a run for his money.A lot of you are overpowering Goku's strength and underpowering Superman.Superman's physical strength and speed would be at least a match for Goku, it could potentially be stronger. Goku would have a hard time having the chance to power-up a blast strong enough to significantly hurt Superman. There is also a chance Superman could actually deflect a Genki Dama fired at him. It would come down to, whether Superman is as skilled as Goku in a fist fight, I doubt it but it is possible. So A Post-Crisis Superman could go either way in an actual fight, but the edge would be to Goku.If you were talking Pre-Crisis Supes, then Goku wouldn't stand a change. Not only was Superman far stronger and faster then Goku was, he was also nearly indestructible under a Yellow Sun. The only having any effect on Superman back then was Kryptonite. One of the main reason's they retconned superman was he was practically God in the old comics and they had to seriously weaken him to get things interesting again. A Pre-Crisis Superman would walk over Goku without even breaking a sweat.Edit: Actually, I just remembered that they have once again Restrengthened superman to the point he can physically move dwarf planets. Not as strong as his Unlimited strength, speed and stamina from Pre-Crisis, but still physically stronger then Goku actually is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordeth_Kai Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 again, slight problem with superman is that he never goes up against weapons worse than lasers and guns, he rarely fights things that aren't human, simply put, there is no real way to gauge his strength because there are no opponents on his level in his world, simply put, goku goes up against alien beings on a regular basis, we could also debate weather superman could stand up to frieza, cell, or even piccolo as they all are superhuman, and I highly doubt superman would stand a chance against majin buu, superman never faces a challenge that comes close to most of the challenges in the DBZ series, in the dragon ball series when goku is a child they would be a match and superman would win in the earlier parts of that series, and may even win in the later parts, but DBZ and on goes way beyond anything superman ever faces, as such superman is not a match for goku, and probably not for half the main fighting cast hero and villain of DBZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Superman is only equivalent to like Master Roshi in the Dragon Ball series. Can catch bullets, cars falling on him don't hurt him etc.. He is Superman, but it doesn't take a whole lot to be super when it comes to man kind. Goku on the other hand comes from a Superior Warrior Race.Even Goku as a little boy could beat Superman. Now Goku going Super Saiyan 4? Superman wouldn't stand a chance.Also Goku has no weaknesses anymore since his tail is gone. Superman on the other hand gets his ass handed to him by normal humans over and over again by simply being in the same room as a green rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krogothwolf Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Superman can live in vacuum, can move dwarf planets with his strength alone, his speed hasn't been fully documented, but he can cross star systems fairly fast, without a ship. He is also insanely intelligent. That's merely Post-Crisis superman. Who is the weaker of the 2.Pre-Crisis superman has UNLIMITED strength, speed, stamina, endurance and durability. The main reason he was retconned was because he was practically a God. He could move any sort of planet, not just dwarf. He could also Fly across the universe to distant galaxies and solar systems through hyperspace,flying through space warps near earth and emerging many light years away. Goku's physical strength and speed are probably weaker then post-crisis supes now since he's been enhanced, and far weaker then pre-crisis supes.Also, superman fights Cosmic Entities fairly often. And Superior Warrior Race? They got practically wiped out in a one-shot by Frieza. How does that make them superior warrior race? They are merely a warrior race.Also, Goku's personality would not even let kryptonite get near superman for that fight so his weakness is mute since it wouldn't even be a factor in this fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero D. Ace Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Yeah, well. it was this same "Warrior Race" that Friexa was scared to death off. That's why he took em out before they reached Super Saiyan level.Besides, Superman would actually have to fly halfway across the galaxy while Goku can just use his Instant Transmission. Also, you forgot that many times, Superman had to resort to trickery to win his fights. he didn't care about honor and the fun of the fight. Goku on the other hand, has many times gone out of his way to make sure his opponents aren't at a disadvantage cuz he actually BELIEVES in his power. That said, there is NO WAY Superman can crush Goku's fighting spirit, while Superman himself will quit easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Superman can live in vacuum, can move dwarf planets with his strength alone, his speed hasn't been fully documented, but he can cross star systems fairly fast, without a ship. He is also insanely intelligent. That's merely Post-Crisis superman. Who is the weaker of the 2.Pre-Crisis superman has UNLIMITED strength, speed, stamina, endurance and durability. The main reason he was retconned was because he was practically a God. He could move any sort of planet, not just dwarf. He could also Fly across the universe to distant galaxies and solar systems through hyperspace,flying through space warps near earth and emerging many light years away. Goku's physical strength and speed are probably weaker then post-crisis supes now since he's been enhanced, and far weaker then pre-crisis supes.Also, superman fights Cosmic Entities fairly often. And Superior Warrior Race? They got practically wiped out in a one-shot by Frieza. How does that make them superior warrior race? They are merely a warrior race.Also, Goku's personality would not even let kryptonite get near superman for that fight so his weakness is mute since it wouldn't even be a factor in this fight.Goku could move planets, or destroy them in a blink of an eye.You are forgetting how easily Frieza at his weakest was able to take out planets. Namek sure it took 5 minutes after his blast, but then he didn't exactly mean for it to be immediately destroyed either. He wanted Goku to suffer before dying in Outer Space from lack of Oxygen. If he could do all that, Goku could surely do much worse.Frieza surely took out the Saiyans because he was scared of their potential, but you know what? Frieza would own Superman without even having to transform or put up much of a fight. His first laser shot would have killed Superman.Superman gets his ass handed to him by humans. Frieza was never and would never fear nor be harmed by a simple human.Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, hell even Chi Chi would own Superman in a matter of seconds.There really is no debate in Goku vs. Superman because it's the same as comparing Bulma vs. Kid Boo.I've never seen the comic book Superman's but the ones I have seen just didn't show any signs of him being even close and everything you have said as far as in terms of what he can do is still lacking compared to most of the weaker Z Fighters of DBZ much less even coming close to comparing with Goku.So yeah, I think it'd be a more fair poll to do Superman vs. Krillin.It might be a little tough but I'd still probably have to side with Krillin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krogothwolf Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Lets have a look at abilities of each Combatant.Goku:Super Strength: No real definition of how physically strong he is, but manga/anime shows that he would probably have a hard to moving a planet on his own.Super Speed: No real definition of how fast he is, but can fly around the planet in probably a few seconds.Insane StaminaSuper DurabilityKai BlastsGenki DamaKamaHamaHaSolar FlareSuper Saiyan 1 to 4Golden Age Superman:Total wuss.Faster then speeding trainLeap over buildings in a single boundAble to stop BulletsHey guys, It’s Mr. Satan.Silver/Bronze Age Superman(Pre-Crisis):Unlimited Strength(stated, shown to be able to move planets with ease)Unlimited Speed(stated, can enter hyperspace)Unlimited StaminaUnlimited Durability(Has flown through the Core of a Sun with no harm whatsoever)Unlimited EnduranceFreezing breathHurricane breathHeat Ray(Can melt or vaporize any substance dependent on the intensity Superman uses for it.)Genuis-Level intellectUlimited Physical Senses(Hearing, Smell, Sight, Touch, Taste)Modern Superman(1st Post-Crisis):Super Strength(Fairly limited)Super Speed(Fairly limitedSuper StaminaSuper EnduranceSuper HearingSuper BreathHeat RayFreeze BreathInvulnerability(krytonian and kryptonian level characters can harm him)RegenerationModern Superman(current Post-Crisis):Super Strength(able to physically move dwarf planets)Super Speed(can travel from Earth to Oa in a few hours)Super Stamina(can hold his breath to make intergalactic journeys.) Super EnduranceSuper BreathHeat RayFreeze BreathInvulnerability(krytonian and kryptonian level characters can harm him)RegenerationEnhanced Physical Senses(Hearing, Smell, Sight, Touch, Taste)Genuis-Level intellectAlright, lets get down to actual fights.Goku vs Golden Age Superman:Uh…. It would be Goku mopping the floor with him, fulfills everyone’s secret desire of seeing Goku kick this shit out of Mr. Satan man for being such a douche.Goku vs Silver/Bronze AgeGoku would lose, This superman is fully godlike, even with Goku’s instant transmission Superman would hear the slightest movement from him of were he instantly appears, and would be able to dodge any attacks because his speed is far greater then Goku’s as is his strength. Goku wouldn’t have enough time to fully charge up an attack capable of hurting him and even if he did, hitting him would be far harder for Goku to achieve because of the speeds Superman can travel.Goku vs Modern Age(1st)Goku would win, this modern age is seriously weakened because the writer thought he got far to powerful. This Superman is like a Thor, but without his magic hammer.Goku vs Modern Age(current)This is the one that would actually be close. Superman is probably physically stronger and faster then Goku, but he lacks the skill set Goku has. Superman usually just gets involved in face punch with his enemies and wins by merely being last on standing. He’s not a master of the Martial Arts. It would be the closest fight between the two. Superman would still be able to figure out the instant transmission moves based on his enhanced senses being able to hear Goku’s breathing and movement as he appears were he is going. Superman would have the edge is Physical Traits, Goku in Skills. So the outcome would be either 3 to 1 in favour of Goku or a 2 – 2 draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero D. Ace Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Dude. When Goku was a kid, he beat up dinosaurs. How's that for Superhuman strength?And he had to decline Vegeta's offer for a re-match cuz he feared they would end up blowing the whole planet.Superman may move planets but Goku can obliterate them into tiny little meteroidic pieces. Plus, it doesn't matter if Superman hears him coming. Goku has his Kamehameha Wave.Cell couldn't dodge it and neither can Superman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrodis19 Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Lets have a look at abilities of each Combatant.Goku:Super Strength: No real definition of how physically strong he is, but manga/anime shows that he would probably have a hard to moving a planet on his own.Super Speed: No real definition of how fast he is, but can fly around the planet in probably a few seconds.Insane StaminaSuper DurabilityKai BlastsGenki DamaKamaHamaHaSolar FlareSuper Saiyan 1 to 4Golden Age Superman:Total wuss.Faster then speeding trainLeap over buildings in a single boundAble to stop BulletsHey guys, It’s Mr. Satan.Silver/Bronze Age Superman(Pre-Crisis):Unlimited Strength(stated, shown to be able to move planets with ease)Unlimited Speed(stated, can enter hyperspace)Unlimited StaminaUnlimited Durability(Has flown through the Core of a Sun with no harm whatsoever)Unlimited EnduranceFreezing breathHurricane breathHeat Ray(Can melt or vaporize any substance dependent on the intensity Superman uses for it.)Genuis-Level intellectUlimited Physical Senses(Hearing, Smell, Sight, Touch, Taste)Modern Superman(1st Post-Crisis):Super Strength(Fairly limited)Super Speed(Fairly limitedSuper StaminaSuper EnduranceSuper HearingSuper BreathHeat RayFreeze BreathInvulnerability(krytonian and kryptonian level characters can harm him)RegenerationModern Superman(current Post-Crisis):Super Strength(able to physically move dwarf planets)Super Speed(can travel from Earth to Oa in a few hours)Super Stamina(can hold his breath to make intergalactic journeys.) Super EnduranceSuper BreathHeat RayFreeze BreathInvulnerability(krytonian and kryptonian level characters can harm him)RegenerationEnhanced Physical Senses(Hearing, Smell, Sight, Touch, Taste)Genuis-Level intellectAlright, lets get down to actual fights.Goku vs Golden Age Superman:Uh…. It would be Goku mopping the floor with him, fulfills everyone’s secret desire of seeing Goku kick this shit out of Mr. Satan man for being such a douche.Goku vs Silver/Bronze AgeGoku would lose, This superman is fully godlike, even with Goku’s instant transmission Superman would hear the slightest movement from him of were he instantly appears, and would be able to dodge any attacks because his speed is far greater then Goku’s as is his strength. Goku wouldn’t have enough time to fully charge up an attack capable of hurting him and even if he did, hitting him would be far harder for Goku to achieve because of the speeds Superman can travel.Goku vs Modern Age(1st)Goku would win, this modern age is seriously weakened because the writer thought he got far to powerful. This Superman is like a Thor, but without his magic hammer.Goku vs Modern Age(current)This is the one that would actually be close. Superman is probably physically stronger and faster then Goku, but he lacks the skill set Goku has. Superman usually just gets involved in face punch with his enemies and wins by merely being last on standing. He’s not a master of the Martial Arts. It would be the closest fight between the two. Superman would still be able to figure out the instant transmission moves based on his enhanced senses being able to hear Goku’s breathing and movement as he appears were he is going. Superman would have the edge is Physical Traits, Goku in Skills. So the outcome would be either 3 to 1 in favour of Goku or a 2 – 2 draw.Krogoth your the only one to make sense in this whole thread your both objective and you analyze both of their streangths and weaknesses. Id go with your argument over all. And im for Superman, problem is this is an anime forum so people wont be objective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krogothwolf Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Current Goku > Prefect Cell, Current Post-Crisis Superman = Current Goku, Pre-Crisis Superman > Current Goku. Superman can destroy a planet at least as quick as Goku could destroy a planet. The argument that Goku can beat another DBZ character merely means that DBZ character would be beaten by Superman since Current Superman is about even with Goku that would mean any Character Goku defeats is defeatable by Superman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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