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I will have to buy a laptop soon. 

I would like it to be able to handle HEVC encoding. 

Would prefer anything under 65000 INR(~1000USD)

Preferred OS Win10

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Its better if you have a PC (better performance for the money), but if you are intent on buying a laptop, the best you are going to get is an i5 7th gen for that cash. Most probably a 7200U which will give you "acceptable" speeds. But thats about it.

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Will be going to college soon cannot take my PC with me.

I'll look for something with that processor

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2 hours ago, Etzimal said:

Why HEVC?

 

Its bad.

Serves my purpose I do not have a lot of storage ~4.5TB and I usually watch stuff on my PC so HEVC is not that bad an option for me.

Why do you say it's bad?

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5 minutes ago, Nabull said:

Serves my purpose I do not have a lot of storage ~4.5TB and I usually watch stuff on my PC so HEVC is not that bad an option for me.

Why do you say it's bad?

It isn't at the point where it is good yet, so its bad.

 

It'll probably be some time before its tested / matured enough for proper use.

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11 minutes ago, Etzimal said:

It isn't at the point where it is good yet, so its bad.

 

It'll probably be some time before its tested / matured enough for proper use.

Agreed, but still it just works for me 

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36 minutes ago, Nabull said:

Agreed, but still it just works for me 

Fair.

 

Any laptop with a decent processor will do honestly. Encoding on laptops isn't something you can really "build" for, I think.

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25 minutes ago, Etzimal said:

Encoding on laptops isn't something you can really "build" for, I think.

Encoding is something that shouldn't be done on laptops period \o/.

Way too underpowered and you're probably going to run into thermal throttling based your your CPU and price point @Nabull. This is the same reason why you can't "game" on laptops either, well game to the same extent as you would on a desktop. 

That said, what are you going to use for encoding (programme wise)? And what will you be encoding?

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25 minutes ago, Moodkiller said:

Encoding is something that shouldn't be done on laptops period \o/.

Way too underpowered and you're probably going to run into thermal throttling based your your CPU and price point @Nabull. This is the same reason why you can't "game" on laptops either, well game to the same extent as you would on a desktop. 

That said, what are you going to use for encoding (programme wise)? And what will you be encoding?

Probably IFME ,mostly anime.

Agreed that laptop hardware is not something that you can compare to desktop hardware.I don't want to spend too much on it since it doesn't seem practical to me most expensive laptops might perform on par with 4th/5th gen i5 I don't see the point in buying something like that

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35 minutes ago, Moodkiller said:

Encoding is something that shouldn't be done on laptops period \o/.

Way too underpowered and you're probably going to run into thermal throttling based your your CPU and price point @Nabull. This is the same reason why you can't "game" on laptops either, well game to the same extent as you would on a desktop. 

That said, what are you going to use for encoding (programme wise)? And what will you be encoding?

this isn't really a great argument. Encoding isn't a real-time task, games are. Any CPU can be used for encoding, even a raspberry pi. It'll just take years

 

What you're really looking for is a ratio of cost to speed, with bonuses for low thermal output, low noise, etc. No matter what you buy though, if you want good quality out of it, expect encodes to still take hours/days depending on size, target quality, etc.

 

The most important stat is going to be raw CPU or GPU speed (GHz), depending on what you're using to encode. If it's a codec supported by hardware encoders (e.g. NVEnc on NVIDIA, Quicksync on Intel chips, etc), then you can get a decent speed boost. 

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11 hours ago, Catar said:

Encoding isn't a real-time task, games are. Any CPU can be used for encoding, even a raspberry pi. It'll just take years.

 

This part is very important. As Catar said, it all comes down to cost/speed ratio. Gaming is an entirely different subject because it's a real-time process, where a certain amount of frames has to be displayed in a certain amount of time in order for the game to be ''playable'' in a decent manner. For most people, 60fps is considered optimal. Some are with fine 30fps. If your computer cannot reach these numbers, then yeah, it's simply not suited for gaming and you're probably gonna have a bad time. This is why it's essential for most PC games to have customizable graphics setings.

 

The point is, when it comes to encoding, the only thing that really matters is time. A $500 PC can yield the same output quality as a $10,000 PC. It just takes A LOT longer to process and encode.

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@Nabull You should look for a HQ-series or MQ-series (quad-cores) based mobile intel cpu equipped laptops while avoid the U-series (dual-cores.) HEVC encoding benefits greatly from AVX2 instruction set so a minimum of 4th gen should be sought like a i7-4710MQ (Haswell) which encoded Attack on Titans episode 1 under 50 minutes using x265 preset slow into 720p 10-bit. 6th-7th gen (i7-7700HQ for example) would be ideal. Go for a business or gaming class laptop for good build quality and adequate cooling and/or buy a chill mate as well.

 

Some links below based on quick searching to get an idea of what's out there.

Laptops
https://www.amazon.com/Notebook-Computer-Quad-Core-i7-6700HQ-GeForce/dp/B01MR05UO2/
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-15-i5-6300HQ-Display/dp/B01N8SI9I7/

https://www.amazon.com/Lastest-Computer-Quad-Core-i5-6300HQ-Bluetooth/dp/B06XZF5L68/
https://www.amazon.com/HoMei-i7-4710MQ-GeForce-Bluetooth-Keyboard/dp/B06Y2BMF9W/
http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-power-pavilion-laptop----17t-x7n62av-1 https://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Pavilion-17t-ab200-Notebook-Review.197952.0.html
http://www.pro-star.com/index.php?r=product/configure&model=N855HJ

 

Laptops - Certified Refurbished (look and work like new)
i7-6820HQ $694.66 https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Latitude-i7-6820HQ-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B0727S6TKH/
i5-7300HQ $669.99 https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Windows-VX5-591G-5652-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B07286CT4Y/
 

 

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35 minutes ago, Tsukiyomi said:

@Nabull You should look for a HQ-series or MQ-series (quad-cores) based mobile intel cpu equipped laptops while avoid the U-series (dual-cores.) HEVC encoding benefits greatly from AVX2 instruction set so a minimum of 4th gen should be sought like a i7-4710MQ (Haswell) which encoded Attack on Titans episode 1 under 50 minutes using x265 preset slow into 720p 10-bit. 6th-7th gen (i7-7700HQ for example) would be ideal. Go for a business or gaming class laptop for good build quality and adequate cooling and/or buy a chill mate as well.

 

Some links below based on quick searching to get an idea of what's out there.

Laptops
https://www.amazon.com/Notebook-Computer-Quad-Core-i7-6700HQ-GeForce/dp/B01MR05UO2/
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-15-i5-6300HQ-Display/dp/B01N8SI9I7/

https://www.amazon.com/Lastest-Computer-Quad-Core-i5-6300HQ-Bluetooth/dp/B06XZF5L68/
https://www.amazon.com/HoMei-i7-4710MQ-GeForce-Bluetooth-Keyboard/dp/B06Y2BMF9W/
http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-power-pavilion-laptop----17t-x7n62av-1 https://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Pavilion-17t-ab200-Notebook-Review.197952.0.html
http://www.pro-star.com/index.php?r=product/configure&model=N855HJ

 

Laptops - Certified Refurbished (look and work like new)
i7-6820HQ $694.66 https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Latitude-i7-6820HQ-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B0727S6TKH/
i5-7300HQ $669.99 https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Windows-VX5-591G-5652-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B07286CT4Y/
 

 

http://www.amazon.in/Asus-FX553VD-DM483-15-6-inch-i7-7700HQ-Graphics/dp/B06XJ4RMW7/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1498555309&sr=8-8&keywords=i7+laptops+7th+generation

is this good enough? Also the U series is tolerable?

There are not a lot of HQ laptops on my regional amazon

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17 minutes ago, Nabull said:

http://www.amazon.in/Asus-FX553VD-DM483-15-6-inch-i7-7700HQ-Graphics/dp/B06XJ4RMW7/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1498555309&sr=8-8&keywords=i7+laptops+7th+generation

is this good enough? Also the U series is tolerable?

There are not a lot of HQ laptops on my regional amazon

That's plenty good. The U series is tolerable but it'll be dual-core with hyper-threading so roughly half speed of the quad-core with hyper-threading (i7) or 75-80% of an i5 quad-core w/o HT. 

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U-series vs HQ-series means more than Core i5 vs Core i7. There is not much performance difference between an i5-7200U and an i7-7500U, but there is a substantial difference between either and an i5-7300HQ. If your requirements call for CPU performance, it is likely that you need an HQ-series. If not, an i5-7200U or even i3-7100U will likely be sufficient. As always, more info is available here.

 

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3 minutes ago, Tsukiyomi said:

That's plenty good. The U series is tolerable but it'll be dual-core with hyper-threading so roughly half speed of the quad-core with hyper-threading (i7) or 75-80% of an i5 quad-core w/o HT. 

 

Will try to get my hand on it not sure about Endless OS though

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whatever you buy grab extended warranty as well.  budget laptops have big failure rates, kinda they re built to expire :P

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