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10 hours ago, Scyrous said:
How did you even manage to come to such a conclusion?
Because why going for fast pacing if their plan was for a split season right from the start anyways?
And quite frankly cutting out important details and passing over interesting nuances was disrespectful to the original content and the audience.
Despite the fact that season 3 is already completely done, which becomes quite apparent at the end of Ep49, they split it in two only to cover a 2 year airing schedule.
So yeah, really got to hand it to them. They know perfectly well how to screw around with their fans. -
4 hours ago, ywai1659 said:
Is there anyone who read shingeki no kyojin manga?
I used to only read the manga but stopped in favor for the anime to pick up.
After this grave disappointment now with the large season split and the "questionable" adaption of the Uprising Arc, I'm getting back to reading.
Stopped at chapter90, which is most likely the point at which this season is gonna wrap.
A LOT to immerse myself back into ^^ -
The episode was fine, however
So in the end it turns out that there was no need at all to modify and condense the uprising arc like they've done.
And now when you want to check out how they'd handle the next arc, they announce the show is gonna be on break for another 6 months.
The small teaser during the ending even shows thatSpoilerthe production has already progressed pretty far ahead (or they could have animated just that one scene to have something to show for that ending)
Really gotta hand it to them, they know perfectly well how to screw around with their fans.
Back to the manga now. Not sure if I'll pick up on the 2nd part. -
On 10/10/2018 at 2:38 AM, Koby said:
However it seems it'll be going on break and not returning until January.
If that turns out to be fact.... Oh well, I've been wondering why the airing schedule didn't update further than episode 49
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Since last episode didn't air due to typhoon, I'm kinda hoping for a 2 episode special sometime later down the road.
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On 8/25/2018 at 11:26 AM, Scyrous said:
Found a great comment on Reddit that I'm gonna post here because I'm getting tired of people saying ''but the manga is different reeeeeeeeeee''.
Credit to /u/jblakk. Post contains minor references to the manga.
I ask you this. How does the "decision" for change seem weird or confuse you if the main objective was to fix the initial reaction of first time viewers? They made the pace faster and less stilted, that is neither better or worse objectively speaking. It is just different. A difference that is proven to create a better fan reception.
The anime onlies (which is the only unbiased interpretation of the anime arc) reaction is at the same consistent love and support of the series as the previous seasons. Compare that to the manga where this arc was polarizing to put it lightly. The perception was at about a 60/40 approval rating at estimate and is a far worse ratio in comparison to the other arcs.
Screw hindsight, screw reareads, and screw the monthly release excuse. The fact of the matter is when that arc was showcased initially, there was a huge separation of opinions of the arc as a whole. That was the initial reaction and that is all we can go off of on the school of thought on why the change happened.
People will use the monthly release of the manga as a reasoning for people not liking the arc, but even the Marley arc had a higher approval rating. In fact, in season 2 after the amazing first episode, the Sasha episode and episode 3 had a lower approval rating where a lot of people claimed that AoT lost it's spunk. It wasn't until the Ymir reveal and then the RB reveal happened where things started to pick up and AoTs momentum was back in good form like seaosn 1 was. That is proof the anime onlies have a specific taste and needs on how they want the narrative to be paced.
With that being said, there have been changes, there have been losses, SOME development was loss as well, but if this arc was adapted faithfully it would be far more detrimental to the momentum and fan perception of this new season. We can make this assumption based off of the affirmentioned incidents where the fan perception has dropped.
From a business standpoint and from a pacing standpoint the decision to make such changes makes sense. The loss of a slap, a character who was great but inconsequential, and abs are minor casualties in the big picture of things and it is dissengenuine to create this narrative that these changes are some how baffling or weird considering why they chose to do it and the episode constraints they dealt with.
I say all of this even before mentioning the fact that people are basically critiquing something that isn't even finished yet. I hope I don't have to explain why that is a nonsensical thing to do. You don't critique a painting before its last paint brush stroke do you?
As manga readers we HAVE to remember and understand that our viewpoint is biased and cherry picked. We know what is going to happen, we know how things did happen. For those who don't watch the episodes for what they are and look at them through a meta lense and try to check off things you want to see you will never be able to gauge and enjoy the episodes at the same objective and unbiased perspective as someone coming in fresh. You are prejudging the show when you look at it from that lense. Prejudging leads to prejudice and I hope we all know the flaws of a prejudicial mindset.
You can agree to a lot of what has been said there

When an anime changes things and those changes are actually plausible and preferably favorible as well, then it's okay I'd say.
This season so far condenses the plot for fast pacing and for whatever reason even puts filler into there as well.
I can't understand why people didn't like this particular arc in manga, but each to their own and of course the anime has to appeal to the mass which allegedly
is mostly an action-loving audience.
When the studio is being faithful to the source for adaption, the scenes turn out exceptionally well.SpoilerThe scene when Rod and Historia touch Eren and Historia disobeying Rod, those gave me chills

I really want a gif of Historia running up the stairs

Next episode we'll see if another core element got cut or not, but the preview kinda looks like it's gonne be in there.
Btw,SpoilerA few episodes back, the King's council was talking amongst themselves about not to worry about Historia as she has a false claim and will never become Queen.
But how is that possible?
Every single one of them is aware that Historia will become the next Progenitor Titan Shifter, therefore definitely becoming the Queen anyways so to say.
That scene made no sense.
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I just would like to mention that the pacing so far is insanely fast.
Episode 3 was so far the best one. It really did its best to wrap up all changes that have been made with the first two episodes, with the exception of the portayal of Historia of course. The confrontation between her and Rod Reiss was immensely disappointing though, it almost felt like she reverted back to her former broken/weak girl persona.
There was absolutely no need to do that just for the anime. No idea why they felt the need to make that change.
Episode 4 was nice too. I had my worries concering the Flegel and news press subplot, but this got handled pretty well.
However, Levi Squad's fell WAY too short. I was looking forward to how the anime would adapt their first real assault on the MP, but it got reduced to a tiny checkpoint.
That was underwhelming, to say the least. But of course, saved a lot of time for the sake of fast pacing I suppose.
If this keeps up then we'll get to the "the place where it all began", like Rod Reiss put it, starting Episode 6 already.
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Now after two episodes I can say that so far the only things I really like are both the OP and the ED.
The rest I'm not so sure about. Yet.
I don't know if it really was such a good or wise decision to cut up two entirely different events, mesh them into a single one and set up everything else to somehow make it all fit. -
I'm also looking forward to see the new ending ^^
"Requiem der Morgenröte" has a good ring to it. -
1 hour ago, Scyrous said:
No, but all the promotional material and interviews seem to indicate it will cover two arcs. Do you really expect it’s gonna take something like 22-25 eps to cover one single arc? No freaking way, especially not with the current arc. As I said: season 3 is gonna be two arcs. Unless some kind of miracle happens and it’s gonna be 3 arcs, but I highly doubt it. Next arc is action-heavy which generally allows for faster pacing, so first cour might be 13 eps and second cour 12 eps. You get the idea.
So no proof, alright. All we got is mere speculation.
Well I can only see it going to work out in a satisfying way if the split would be something like 16~18 episodes for uprising arc and then as many episodes needed for the following one. Unless their goal is quantity over quality.
1 hour ago, Scyrous said:Believe what you want, but with only ep01 released so far, obviously it’s best to wait and see before complaining about certain pages that were skipped (for now, maybe).
Of course, with just one episode to take as a source you're just grasping at straws. Time will tell.
All I'm doing is looking out for facts that can tell me how this will go down, that's all ^^
I'll start complaining (perhaps) later on if my worries are getting confirmed at some point.
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2 hours ago, Scyrous said:
As said before, Isayama was involved in changing the order of many story beats to improve the pacing and whatnot. And some of the more irrelevant/pointless parts have been skipped entirely, plus some elements were changed altogether.
7 episodes doesn’t mean it’s gonna be ~21 episodes. The amount of episodes per volume can definitely be different for a few of them, resulting in a total of 22, 24 or maybe 25 episodes. You get the idea: it’s not set in stone. We don’t really know yet. Either way, the current arc and next arc are going to be covered. 100%. As for how the pacing is gonna be, even manga readers don’t know. But you can be sure all the changes are done to improve the experience and overall story. After all, most of these changes are coming from Isayama himself. His involvement with the anime basically turns it into a revised/final version of the AoT story, rather than a direct adaptation. Which can only be a good thing if you ask me. The current arc received some pacing complaints and I’m glad Isayama is improving that aspect atleast.
Well, I definitely want to believe that this season is gonna cover two arcs. Is there an official statement by the producers themselves somewhere?
I just hope that the producers won't cut out too much material just to make these two arcs somehow fit into one limited ~24 episode season.
I don't know how much Isayama has been involved, but it's just hard to believe that this is going to work out in a satisfying way.
Surely the first episode has been specially prepared in this way to get you pumped for the new season, so there's still room for neglected content to be fully implemented later on. There were some very important aspects that you just cannot remove like that. -
Hmm this first episode is difficult.
First of all, the new opening is awesome! Sure it's not as upbeat as previous ones, but this arc is also entirely different that any previous ones.
I love how it's entirely about one character that's about to become central in this arc. Plus it's featuring very important elements for this new arc as well.
I had to go back to the source material and wow, a lot has been skipped. Probably because this is a pilot episode to rile up the audience.I wonder if you can interpret into the first seconds that the season is actually going to end 'there', but I'm not really sure about that...
There's just not enough space to work with. I can see three scenarios:
1) They skip a lot and somehow cram two arcs into this season2) They adapt this one arc only with about 21 episodes (referring to the BD and DVD release dates from official website)
3) They extend this season with a couple more episodes (idk, 26~28) and adapt two arcs and make them good
That being sad, I enjoyed this episode very much.
I could get immersed into this anime once again without any problems. Almost felt like I've ended 2nd season right before diving into this new one ^^
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19 minutes ago, Pi7on said:
If you don't mind cam rip, the first ep is already on nyaa
Patience is a gift , and what are 6 more days?


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Only 6 more days left. I can hardly wait.
I managed to avoid any kind of spoilers, manga or anime related. Stopped reading the manga at around ch88 or so and now I'm curious about much this season is going to cover.
There were two scenes in season2 that have been shown way ahead in time, involving Marco and Ymir, so I really hope that in order to make any sense of especially Ymir's content this season is gonna cover until books and shores. -
You bet I am! Only a little bit over 5 weeks until first episode airs ^^
Favorite character? Annie forever
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Well no need to discuss this any further since we both have strong opinions on this matter.
My point being is that this season had so much potential to be Grade A quality, but they settled with Grade C quality.
That is very disappointing.