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  1. Leviathan

    Latest Naruto Manga Discussion [Spoiler]

    First off, hold your horses! There are plenty of things you're leaving out of consideration before being in panic mode, even though I admit this latest chapter has left me speechless for how incredibly cruel kishi can be in plot twists. >> The theory of being a spy is impossibru. She was a small academy girl in obito/kakashi flashback and it showed her growing alongside both of em, so judging by her setting and the age she started out, I highly doubt a girl like her would be a spy. And even if she were, I still don't see why kakashi would resort to kill her and with a freaking chidori! o___o;; She's been shown as your typical medical ninja, being a fair healer but completely useless in combat hence how she got kidnapped back in gaiden. Again pointing out that she was a very young girl, normal cases don't involve ninjas killing children for being mere spies and this is kakashi we're talking bout which makes it that much more unlikely to happen. So the only likelihood is that he got trolled by those anbu/jonnin ninjas......and quite badly at that. :/ I don't see a reason why Rin couldn't have been a sleeper agent. Based on what we have seen up until now we can easily consider the possiblity of Rin being a spy. We have seen a young Kabuto act as a spy in multiple villages as a medic ninja. So why not Rin? Saying that Rin was too young to be a spy is not logical. Young ninjas who are experienced in their field are often sent to top class missions like its nothing. Kakashi, Rin and Obito were sent to take care of the battle of Kannabi bridge which was considered as a very important mission to for Konoha, Kabuto was sent as a spy to multiple villages. From this we can say that age doesn't matter to become a spy. We can still explain the activation of mangekyo with your guilt theory. You don't actually have to kill someone to feel guilty of killing him. If you feel that you could've done more for the person and just may have saved that person from his death, it could still be classified as guilt. Shisui and Itachi were very close. So Itachi, upon Shisui's death, could've easily blamed himself for being so weak and helpless and not being able to help his friend thus giving birth to guilt. Sasuke could've considered himself guilty of Itachi's death seeing that he spent all the time thinking of revenge and not trying to understand his brother once. But i still don't think you absolutely need to feel pain or guilt to activate the mangekyo. Madara and Izuna used to train from very young, they grew up to be an ideal soldier, they killed their comrades like it was nothing, so to think that these guys felt pain or guilt is a bit.....I still think that feelings like guilt and pain only act as a catalyst in the path to achieve the mangekyo and nothing more.
  2. Leviathan

    Latest Naruto Manga Discussion [Spoiler]

    Here's the link to the naruto manga chapter 603: http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/603 So the last couple of chapters have been totally about obito....how he survived and how he knows madara. Today's chapter seemed more like a prologue than anything....you know we are getting clues on Obito becoming Tobi, basically on the outside, in this chapter. Guess we need to wait a couple of more weeks to completely understand how Obito came to be Tobi.
  3. Leviathan

    naruto guns

    But you have to agree, the shinobis use transmitters to contact with one another over long distances, has an advanced medical sector (maybe too advanced, after all a 12 year old girl carrying out a successful eye transplantation with limited space and equipment within a short time is just ), etc. So not having something similar to a gun is also a bit awkward. Kishi could've shown something like a paper bomb canon, you know something that shoots lots of paper bombs over a wide distance at the same time. Not saying that it would make the show better or anything.....
  4. Ow.......SUPER CUTE. Congrats again....and keep those pics coming.
  5. Leviathan

    Latest Naruto Manga Discussion [Spoiler]

    And about Madara's prime, yes he seems unbeatable at the moment. And Sasuke and Orochimaru's appearance is crucial at this point. But I dont think that Hashirama is gonna make an appearance(though his powers might be used to defeat Madara at the end). So its only a matter of time till the final battle begins. To tell u the truth i don't think even hashirama making an appearence will stop madara. You will know what i mean if you had seen the "never before seen" footage about Hashirama vs Madara in the new Naruto ps3 game. Madara in my opinion took it easy on hashirama....the guy didn't even use one single mangekyo jutsu. The only reason hashirama won was because he had the wood jutsus capable enough to suppress a bijuu. But in the present condition the situation is completely different. Madara has the rinnegan and wood jutsu something he didn't have when he fought hashirama. The rinnegan in itself will make a huge difference here. So the conclusion is simple.....not even hashirama will stand a chance against madara in his present condition.
  6. Leviathan

    Latest Naruto Manga Discussion [Spoiler]

    No doubt the way kishi is making the story is solving the problems.....the only thing is we didn't want to see them getting fixed like that. It just seems cheesy. For example Madara gave his real eyes to Nagato and became blind. Kishi doesn't say why Madara gave up his eyes to a child. Kishi also doesn't say how a blind madara got another eye from an Uchiha and the biggest thing which hit me is....Madara somehow got ONE eye....why one....how come he couldn't have the right one. So kishi, its nice of you to know the mistakes you made and you working to solve them but please, please do a better job than this.
  7. Leviathan

    Latest Naruto Manga Discussion [Spoiler]

    Going to talk about the mangekyo awakening part here. I don't think you need to witness a dear one's death or kill a dear one to awake the mangekyo sharingan. After a lot of thought i came to the decision that extreme pain in your heart is enough for the purpose. Infact i don't think you really need pain, i think pain just acts like a catalyst. Madara and Izuna awakened their mangekyo sharingan, to think that guys like those felt pain due to some reason is.....i don't know.....weird. Also, the third data book gives hints to the fact that kamui, a mangekyo ability was achieved through sheer training and needed no pain, though this is unconfirmed.
  8. Leviathan

    Latest Naruto Manga Discussion [Spoiler]

    http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/601/12 Read what Madara says on the bottom of the page. He says Obito revived him. Uhhh....Madara? It was Kabuto who revived you! You yourself know this, because upon being rezzed, Kabuto told you via the rezzed Second Tsuchikage. Tobi had nothing to do with your being rezzed! Come on Rikuo, you noticed that but not this : http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/560/2 And Rikuo, surely you don't consider this to be a plot hole or something like that. Obito is the captain of this operation and nagato (and akatsuki) was nothing more than his lackeys. If you think carefully everything up until now happened according to obito's will, madara's revival being nothing more than that. If obito hadn't wanted then, madara would never be revived. Madara himself knows this. It was the plan that Nagato would be the one to revive Madara on command of Obito, but Madara rises from the grave to find that Kabuto is the one who summoned him, which was not the plan. So, Madara asks Obito if it was his will to revive him like this and not according to the way planned. There is nothing wrong with what Madara said here. Uhh...what are you talking about? In 601, when he says "Is this why you revived me like this?"...that happens after 560. In 560, he assumed Nagato had revived him, but Kabuto says no, he did. So from then on, Madara knows who was the one who revived him. So to then say later on to a guy who he knows didn't revive him, "Why you did revive me like this?"....is just nonsensical. Um.....you see Rikuo you are wrong in both cases. Madara did know that it wasn't nagato who revived him even before kabuto introduced himself. Check out the link i provided again, madara asks "who is using this edo tensei" meaning he already knows it isn't nagato. And why wouldn' he know. http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/559/2 Kabuto through the edo tensei confirms that it isn't nagato who summoned him. A village church is destroyed by an army, a church which was not supposed to be destroyed. Who do the president call for explanation? The driver of the tank which blew up the church, or the captain of the squad? Of course the captain of the squad. Obito is the captain here, all decisions are made through his will. So of course madara can ask for an explanation seeing that he wasn't revived according to plan. There is nothing nonsensical here.
  9. Levi ain't socially normal Levi will still give idl advice Levi says call gurl as soon as possible Levi says not to be surprised if gurl already has a boyfriend Levi asks idl to keep friendship alive with gurl Levi wishes good luck to idl
  10. Leviathan

    Latest Naruto Manga Discussion [Spoiler]

    http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/601/12 Read what Madara says on the bottom of the page. He says Obito revived him. Uhhh....Madara? It was Kabuto who revived you! You yourself know this, because upon being rezzed, Kabuto told you via the rezzed Second Tsuchikage. Tobi had nothing to do with your being rezzed! Come on Rikuo, you noticed that but not this : http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/560/2 And Rikuo, surely you don't consider this to be a plot hole or something like that. Obito is the captain of this operation and nagato (and akatsuki) was nothing more than his lackeys. If you think carefully everything up until now happened according to obito's will, madara's revival being nothing more than that. If obito hadn't wanted then, madara would never be revived. Madara himself knows this. It was the plan that Nagato would be the one to revive Madara on command of Obito, but Madara rises from the grave to find that Kabuto is the one who summoned him, which was not the plan. So, Madara asks Obito if it was his will to revive him like this and not according to the way planned. There is nothing wrong with what Madara said here.
  11. Leviathan

    Latest Naruto Manga Discussion [Spoiler]

    Here's the link to the naruto manga chapter 601: http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/601 A few things happening in this chapter here. First of all it seems madara successfully defeated the 5 kages and is now going for the tailed beasts. But the most interesting thing happened in the last page. It seems madara himself saved obito, but maybe just not the way we have imagined up until now. Guess we will just have to wait and see what kishi does now.
  12. Leviathan

    Latest Naruto Manga Discussion [Spoiler]

    Of course there is something wrong with his motive. He is a psycho. What I am saying is that, his motive cannot be regarded as a plot hole. Lelouch and Light had somewhat crazy motives too and that didn't count as plot holes. In Anime, everyone has a crazy self within them and it doesn't take much to activate it. After that, there is no telling what he might do. Now lets forget about motives. It wasn't my intention to hit on what Black Dahlia believes. I just showed him that even without counting motives and other small details, Obito still doesn't fit Tobi. Oh, it seems that we have a misunderstanding, i never counted obito's motive to be a plot hole, just complete BS, that's all. Before revealing obito's motive we would joke around saying "maybe it's because his girlfriend died" and imagine the shock when you see that joke come true. We can't actually call it a plot hole as it really doesn't create holes in the plot, it just ruins it up.
  13. Leviathan

    Latest Naruto Manga Discussion [Spoiler]

    What we are trying to say is Rin's death is not enough to turn obito to who he is now. It's like the time when Kubo spoke about Aizen's actions. Kubo said that Aizen became a villain because he was lonely or something, which is completely ridiculous. If Obito got angry because of Rin's death it would be logical to take revenge on the kakashi, not on the world. And Obito doesn't want to destroy the world? Are you kidding? The guy attacked Konoha with the Kyubi, was the mastermind behind the uchiha clan massacre, declared war on all the shinobi nations and wants to enslave everyone. If that is not equivalent to destroying the world, i don't know what is. I agree that sometimes fans adds wrong infos, now i don't know about other places but in this forum guys like Rikuo and Koby always take care of these things. So i don't see what you are harping about. And about trying to prove Obito=Tobi, you think we haven't tried it yet? Why do you think that the guys here are never accepts it? Because we tried and failed. Age problems, no good motive, etc always stood in the way and finally we said that it can't be Obito. And personally i think that if you can't come up with a theory, you shouldn't comment on one. So unless you can show Tobi=Obito, don't comment on guys who has shown Tobi not equal to Obito. You say that people are so much caught in "tobi can't be obito" disregard the happenings in the manga. I will tell you what happened in the manga, in the manga a fully grown Tobi attacked konoha and fought minato toe to toe only after a few months of the questionable death of preteen obito. So Tobi is a liar, what does that prove? Nothing. If tobi is a liar then which part of his sayings are we supposed to take as the truth? I know, we will take the parts which haven't been proved wrong as truth, oh wait we already did and the result.....Tobi can't be obito. I will not go on with this point seeing that Saminyt really took care of it. Oh sure, there is nothing wrong with his motive. There is nothing wrong with the fact that obito wants to enslave the world and gain ultimate powers just because his crush died. Say what you want my friend, but that is absolutely ridiculous.
  14. Leviathan

    Latest Naruto Manga Discussion [Spoiler]

    Here's the link to naruto manga chapter 600: http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/600 Ok, we have all been eagerly waiting for this chapter, to see what kishi has to say for himself. And frankly i am not impressed. The reason why obito became tobi is because Kakashi let RIn die. Well that's hard to swallow, because that only covers motive (and not a good one either). So, if this obito is the actual obito and not someone from the another dimension then a lot questions remain unanswered and many plot holes are created, like the age and size problem when tobi fought minato. Ok, on the brighter side it seems the action just got more interesting here. It seems Madara himself has arrived here to take on Naruto and the gang....but that leaves one question: what happened to the kages?
  15. Leviathan

    Feng Shui : What are you?

    I'm Dog Wood with Metal affinity and my trigram symbol is Fire. So is that good? Or bad?
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