eosprime Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 I realize that Gin followed aizen and betrayed the soul society, but he did it all in an attempt to find a way to kill aizen. In a way gin's action are similar to those of naruto's danzo. he took actions that goes against morality, but it was all to keep the soul society and the women (rangiku) he cares for safe. just like danzo, whose actions may not have been popular but it was done to keep konoha safe.Both died disgraced in some way but should they be viewed as bad people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
† Ferocia Coutura Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Uhm, I guess I could see where you are coming from, but I think that if he wanted to find a way to kill Aizen, I doubt he had to do all of the other slighty immoral things he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Gin did it all to protect those he cared about.Danzo from the Naruto series did not, he did it so he could eventually control Konoha.Two different ambitions, and thus why I can sympathize with Gin and completely despise Danzo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 I realize that Gin followed aizen and betrayed the soul society, but he did it all in an attempt to find a way to kill aizen. In a way gin's action are similar to those of naruto's danzo. he took actions that goes against morality, but it was all to keep the soul society and the women (rangiku) he cares for safe. just like danzo, whose actions may not have been popular but it was done to keep konoha safe.Both died disgraced in some way but should they be viewed as bad people.um, unless I'm forgetting something Gin isn't dead, he just ran off so he wouldn't be imprisoned by the soul society after Aizen was captured. As for what your talking about I agree; Gin's way should viewed as right not wrong, because he wanted the same as everyone else, stop Aizen, but what's different from Gin and Danzo; is Danzo would sacrifice people if he thought it was for the greater good, Gin never did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosprime Posted February 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 um, unless I'm forgetting something Gin isn't dead, he just ran off so he wouldn't be imprisoned by the soul society after Aizen was captured. My bad. I thought in the manga it sounded like he was killed by aizen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
† Ferocia Coutura Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Uhm, no. I think Gin is dead. As in, DEAD. Sorry, I may be wrong, but I am almost certain that he dead. (Oh, and I COMPLETELY agree with Koby. I hate Danzo.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 I was pretty sure the slash in episode 307 that Aizen gave Gin, killed him.Guess we will find out this Tuesday in 308 since I don't read the manga to know what chapter to skim to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Uhm, no. I think Gin is dead. As in, DEAD. Sorry, I may be wrong, but I am almost certain that he dead. (Oh, and I COMPLETELY agree with Koby. I hate Danzo.)If you read the manga go back and see Bleach chapter 423 page 10 will answer this. but if you just watch the anime I'd just and wait see, it's fairly closing to finishing the arc and you will find out then what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ManyToons Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Damn im not upto that part as yet, But for what ive heard i have to say No Gin doesnt deserve to die, putting self at risk for others is honorable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
† Ferocia Coutura Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Okay, I like Gin as a character, but still. He did some pretty effed up things, and I'm sorry, I don't think that the end justified the means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Okay, I like Gin as a character, but still. He did some pretty effed up things, and I'm sorry, I don't think that the end justified the means.Name one thing he ACTUALLY did, that was bad!He never killed anyone. All he ever did was attack Ichigo at the gate (which actually helped Ichigo in the long run), attack Matsumoto (just to save her from Aizen), attack Hitsugaya (okay this one can't really be explained, but no one got hurt/killed), and flee Soul Society (to follow Aizen). So as far as what he did, nothing was effed up as you claim, and nothing was bad enough he can't apologize for. He did what he thought he had to and for the most part it worked, he just did it too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Name one thing he ACTUALLY did, that was bad!He never killed anyone. All he ever did was attack Ichigo at the gate (which actually helped Ichigo in the long run), attack Matsumoto (just to save her from Aizen), attack Hitsugaya (okay this one can't really be explained, but no one got hurt/killed), and flee Soul Society (to follow Aizen). So as far as what he did, nothing was effed up as you claim, and nothing was bad enough he can't apologize for. He did what he thought he had to and for the most part it worked, he just did it too late.I know he did it just to "stay under cover" or whatever, and I'm not saying this makes Gin a "bad guy" because I think overall he was good, he just had to do some bad crap to make Aizen believe he was on his side; but he in one of the flash backs to where it shows how some of the former captains became Visored does kill one of his squad members when he joins the squad right out the academy (a flash back inside of a flash back) if I remember correctly and he does help with the experiments to make the soul reapers into Visored which had killed several soul reapers before the incident with Shinji and the others. (I remember that happening in the anime, but I can't remember if that is canon or not with the manga though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosprime Posted February 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 So from what i understand from watching the latest episode, Gin's sole purpose for joining the soul society was to get back the soul reaper (shinigami) potential that aizen stole from Rangiku. Gin saw the danger that aizen posed and wanted to change the soul society all for Rangiku. Gin said as he was dying that he failed to get back what aizen took from Rangiku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drshulo02 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 I realize that Gin followed aizen and betrayed the soul society, but he did it all in an attempt to find a way to kill aizen. In a way gin's action are similar to those of naruto's danzo. he took actions that goes against morality, but it was all to keep the soul society and the women (rangiku) he cares for safe. just like danzo, whose actions may not have been popular but it was done to keep konoha safe.Both died disgraced in some way but should they be viewed as bad people.Well all Danzo carez about is being hokage and he'll do anything to make that happened..and plus he participated in the Assault to Yuhiko, Nagato, and konanhelpin Hanzo kill them..even thought the attemp failed..it was still messed up..therefore i consider Danzo EVIL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gungrave223 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Well ive always like Gins attitude, im i was really shock to see him turn on aizen like that. But i dont think that he will die though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoheNExus Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Name one thing he ACTUALLY did, that was bad!He never killed anyone. All he ever did was attack Ichigo at the gate (which actually helped Ichigo in the long run), attack Matsumoto (just to save her from Aizen), attack Hitsugaya (okay this one can't really be explained, but no one got hurt/killed), and flee Soul Society (to follow Aizen). So as far as what he did, nothing was effed up as you claim, and nothing was bad enough he can't apologize for. He did what he thought he had to and for the most part it worked, he just did it too late.Not true, Hitsugaya attacked Gin because Hitsugaya believed that Gin killed Aizen and convinced Momo that Hitsugaya did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosprime Posted February 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 I realized I should not have used danzo in this analogy. The person I should used to compare Gin's action to was Itachi Uchiha. Itachi wiped out his clan and was labeled a traitor and a rogue. But he did it all for the village and for peace. Like Gin, Itachi died without anyone knowing his heroic deeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretAlienMan Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 I don't understand HOW he died. I mean Toshiro was cut in half and Momo was stabbed in the neck yet they both lived... poor Gin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moondoggie Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Truth is I wish he didn't but, he deserved it. Sure his goal was pure, but in order for him to reach that goal he betrayed a lot of people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoheNExus Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Truth is I wish he didn't but, he deserved it. Sure his goal was pure, but in order for him to reach that goal he betrayed a lot of peopleActually he made it appear he betryed them, the only one he attacked was Ichigo (Hitsugaya sttacked Ichimaru in retalition thinking that Gin killed Aizen (oh, the irony) and causing Momo to think the Histugaya did it.) So, he did deserve to die but he also deserved the way he died, as a hero(ish.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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